That's the only "win" that will be found here if we're being honest. Martin's dream is still no where near being fulfilled. His inspiration however is more than tangible.
We should take a moment and recognize that Kaepernick won
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<<TheStandard>>
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Many black people are obsessed with symbolism over the actual work it takes to change things so this seems like a "win" to many people. In my eyes, Kap completely played himself and was misguided. As they say, the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
He's a martyr in a fight that wasn't winnable in the manner he approached it and it's amazing to me that so many black people are okay with him being the sacrificial lamb in all of this.
It's certainly enlightening to see the lengths that white people go to maintain white supremacy and shift the narrative in their favor but this is a loss. The original message has been muddled to the point where it's gone to a completely different direction. There's no talk of how to stop police brutality or the racial injustices black people face but rather will Kaepernick be able to play football this season, boycotting the NFL until Kaepernick gets job ,which athletes are taking knees, who is staying in the locker room during the pledge of allegiance, Trump calling NFL players sons of a bytches.........literally everything but the reason he's protested in the first place.
I actually feel like I'm living in the twilight zone as Trump supporters and Kaepernick supporters boycott the NFL and try to bring it to its knees for completely different reasons.
I just watched my beloved Dallas Cowboys basically gentrify and "Christopher Columbus" the act of taking a knee. They made it about friendship and being disappointed at Trump for calling players sons of a bytches instead of the death of innocent black men at the hands of police and racial inequality. We're about 1 to 2 weeks away from people taking knees for LGBTQ rights and rights to change sex. This is a complete shyt show.
All this is admirable.....it really is and I respect Kaepernick for fighting for his beliefs and for fighting for black people but he was truly given poor advice. IMO, Kaepernick would have been better off using his money to change things while people with nothing lose "protested" and performed acts of symbolism. I believe the path to real change for black people comes from economic freedom. The same system Kaep is protesting gave him an opportunity to become a multimillionaire, take from them and come back and build our communities and it feels like he threw that away on a fight that he couldn't win, shyt at this point the fight isn't even taking place because the narrative has shifted.
He's a martyr in a fight that wasn't winnable in the manner he approached it and it's amazing to me that so many black people are okay with him being the sacrificial lamb in all of this.
It's certainly enlightening to see the lengths that white people go to maintain white supremacy and shift the narrative in their favor but this is a loss. The original message has been muddled to the point where it's gone to a completely different direction. There's no talk of how to stop police brutality or the racial injustices black people face but rather will Kaepernick be able to play football this season, boycotting the NFL until Kaepernick gets job ,which athletes are taking knees, who is staying in the locker room during the pledge of allegiance, Trump calling NFL players sons of a bytches.........literally everything but the reason he's protested in the first place.
I actually feel like I'm living in the twilight zone as Trump supporters and Kaepernick supporters boycott the NFL and try to bring it to its knees for completely different reasons.
I just watched my beloved Dallas Cowboys basically gentrify and "Christopher Columbus" the act of taking a knee. They made it about friendship and being disappointed at Trump for calling players sons of a bytches instead of the death of innocent black men at the hands of police and racial inequality. We're about 1 to 2 weeks away from people taking knees for LGBTQ rights and rights to change sex. This is a complete shyt show.
All this is admirable.....it really is and I respect Kaepernick for fighting for his beliefs and for fighting for black people but he was truly given poor advice. IMO, Kaepernick would have been better off using his money to change things while people with nothing lose "protested" and performed acts of symbolism. I believe the path to real change for black people comes from economic freedom. The same system Kaep is protesting gave him an opportunity to become a multimillionaire, take from them and come back and build our communities and it feels like he threw that away on a fight that he couldn't win, shyt at this point the fight isn't even taking place because the narrative has shifted.
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nikka angry cacs are gonna cac regardless. They didn't do this shyt to support Kaep or to promote a message, it was a soft ass way of telling Trump to STFU and for Jerry to smile at the cameras while the resident c00ns eat it up. Now Jerry is some hero owner to y'all lames
All these owners "protesting" will be donating to Trump in 2020 campaign, but hey they locked arms and one of them kneeled before the anthem for a smug photo op, let's accept any sliver we can get
R.E.N. Spells Ren
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Agreed, but I wouldn't even be that absolute. If there was actually progress being made towards addressing this issue, I'd call it a W. Instead no one on the other side is even thinking about these issues.
They've successfully turned this into a debate about free speech and proper respect for the anthem/flag. Clear cut L right now in my book.
<<TheStandard>>
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Have you not been following what kaep has been doing?
I've seen the things he's been doing and I salute him for that. His 1 million dollar pledge to 24 different organizations and donating suits to former prisoners looking for jobs have been great but that doesn't change the fact that black people cheered him on as the sacrificial lamb as he lost an opportunity to play in the NFL and continue to make money. It was obvious from the beginning that Kap would end up being blackballed & I just found that troubling.
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nikka angry cacs are gonna cac regardless. They didn't do this shyt to support Kaep or to promote a message, it was a soft ass way of telling Trump to STFU and for Jerry to smile at the cameras while the resident c00ns eat it up. Now Jerry is some hero owner to y'all lames
All these owners "protesting" will be donating to Trump in 2020 campaign, but hey they locked arms and one of them kneeled before the anthem for a smug photo op, let's accept any sliver we can get
Fam this shyt is crazy to me how anyone thinks that kneeling and joining arms with owners shyt is ok.. Big slap in the face.
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
Ali's stance wasn't a solo move, by any means.
Many here are just too young to know that Ali was a member of the Nation of Islam when
he refused his draft induction in 1967.
So, the basis for his refusal was on the grounds of religious objection consistent with
the NOI's teachings then of the Hon. Elijah Muhammad.
He was tied to a much larger, active black organization dedicated to black self-sufficiency
and control.
UserNameless
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He's not hurtin for doe by any stretch of the imagination.
Johnny Kilroy
79 points in 1 quarter
Nah don't say "win". That's why they told us after the Civil Rights movement. 
No complacency.
Good to see the ball rolling but the first shot has yet to even be fired.
No complacency.Good to see the ball rolling but the first shot has yet to even be fired.
Trece
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Yeah, but that's not winning. We're not winning. Getting killed by the cops is not winning. Getting ran out of our cities via gentrification is not winning. Getting paid less and arrested more and progressing slower and dying quicker is not winning. We've made strides, yes. I'm in a better spot now then my grandfather was when he was my age in the 60s, yes. But that's not enough. And until we're really on a level playing field, it won't be.
Now is the time forbut not
. Not yet.
I am not even so sure about the bolded.. the black family has been wiped out since the 60's
Devil Plisken…CMS
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The nerve of a bunch of doofs who can't even stand up to their baby moms trying to undermine what 2Kaep has going lol As if him not standing for the anthem was going to cure prostate cancer. One guy said he wasn't with it and did what he knew to do. Nat Turner killed a bunch of Honkeys knowing damn well it was a death wish..Did it stop slavery? Nope Did Ali not going to Vietnam stop the war? Nope
He's been slightly vindicated but he hasn't won. He's still blackballed, and the media and the NFL have managed to shift the entire narrative concerning why he knelt in the first place--how many media talking heads have even mentioned police brutality? He will win in the long run if he sticks to his convictions, but he isn't there yet.
The Kaepernick brand definitely won, he's damn near a legend now.
But he's basically had his message hijacked in 48 hours. If the NFL or some PR firm chose to do this intentionally then they are evil geniuses. I just saw a picture of Mulder and Scully from X Files kneeling lol
But he's basically had his message hijacked in 48 hours. If the NFL or some PR firm chose to do this intentionally then they are evil geniuses. I just saw a picture of Mulder and Scully from X Files kneeling lol