I leave for a couple hours and WWIII breaks out.
within about 5 minutes of this doc, "most" of TUH's argument is deaded...
I'm too lazy to post a bunch of links atm. But here's a reputable documentary with members of Bushs' administration who adhere to the absurdity which took place under his tenure.
Video: Top Secret America | Watch FRONTLINE Online | PBS Video
I'm too lazy to post a bunch of links atm. But here's a reputable documentary with members of Bushs' administration who adhere to the absurdity which took place under his tenure.
Video: Top Secret America | Watch FRONTLINE Online | PBS Video
......however I will go ahead say that he's not doing much good right now
I understand what ur saying, but Bush has the blood of THOUSANDS of young Americans who died in his worthless/false war on his hands. His war he waged on behalf of his daddy, or over oil, or whatever other baseless reason he had. And on top of all that, he has the fall of the ecnomony on his hands.
I hate to criticize Obama b/c A. he can only do so much due to Congress and B. b/c he's black
I will admit mixing up the patriot, but I did state something to fact, it would never pass in congress, sohh the Bush Administration started passing laws in secrecy through the OLC.
I do remember there being some controversy around the time the time the measure was first introduced to the public. But within a couple months the media hype died down. I was probably 11 or 12 at the time btw...
Aight breh, I'm out (I won't even address your dodge). You posted a youtube video of Iraq War protests as part of your supposed argument and now you're all over the place. You're trying to limit the argument to shift from your rapid spray way of citing things and arguing. For you to sit there and pretend that the media was as remotely critical as it could have been about the Patriot Act, which was signed in 2001 when I just showed you articles that point out the secrecy of the Bush administration, and their push back against the media and the way conservatives skewed the coverage and protected them and morphed the debate is comical. This is the era in which Fox News became the ratings leader and you're legitimately sitting here pretending that on any grounds they went after the Patriot Act under the Bush administration to any legitimate degree or Bush in general is 
Yet, somehow you decided to blow this entire debate and veer us off subject because you didn't like the way @Serious and I worded it and you started equating us to Toure because you "vividly remembered a media that went hard at push from 01 to 04 all the time about the Patriot Act." A lot of people did, but it was not the collective mainstream outrage that we have right now, and you never proved that because you can't. You never met that burden, only you think that you have. I can post 20 assorted links to anything. Of course there was extensive debate about it, no one ever denied that. It was not what it should have been early on. The liberal and progressive apparatus was not as robust as it is right now with the huffposts of the world. The drudges of the world were ahead of the game, which is part of what my links were trying to tell you.
I understand what ur saying, but Bush has the blood of THOUSANDS of young Americans who died in his worthless/false war on his hands. His war he waged on behalf of his daddy, or over oil, or whatever other baseless reason he had. And on top of all that, he has the fall of the ecnomony on his hands.
I hate to criticize Obama b/c A. he can only do so much due to Congress and B. b/c he's black
Obama 2007 said:
Mos def, sounds about right. Like I said, I remember it being a big deal at the time, then over a couple months, people stopped caring.
