Weezy Going At Baby And Cash Money, Wants Off The Label

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At least he will have some company in those bushes

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Who's next, pleighbwoi? :birdman:
 

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Don't be stupid.

He wouldn't have been young Chris because he had his own draw away from Jay's spotlight. It would have been more of a joining of forces rather than an apprenticeship. Not to say it would have been perfect but his situation would more resemble Kayne's than it would Jay- E's.

I don't think so.

Joining forces for what ? In 06, Wayne was bigger than Jay, musically.

The Jay/Kanye association was Jay riding Kanye's wave. Kanyé didn't need Jay; Jay was using him. And Kanye loves Jay, so...

The difference between Wayne and Kanye is that Kanye has that entrepreneur mentality; Wayne just want to have fun and make music.

Either way, Wayne was fukked.

Guys like wanye need to have good folks around them; to guide them and to take care of the business for them. Birdman and Jay are not good folks.
 

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I don't think so.

Joining forces for what ? In 06, Wayne was bigger than Jay, musically.

The Jay/Kanye association was Jay riding Kanye's wave. Kanyé didn't need Jay; Jay was using him. And Kanye loves Jay, so...

The difference between Wayne and Kanye is that Kanye has that entrepreneur mentality; Wayne just want to have fun and make music.

Either way, Wayne was fukked.

Guys like wanye need to have good folks around them; to guide them and to take care of the business for them. Birdman and Jay are not good folks.

Nah, he woulda been better off.

Not saying Jay can't be a Shark, but one of the main reasons that Wayne is probably feeling like he is is because of the emotional connection behind all of this. You got this nikka literally calling himself your father after making you're whole life path dependent on his will. This music shyt ain't family oriented like that...it can be friendly if you're lucky.

Jay and Wayne could have been friends just like Ye and Jay are...them nikkas aren't joined at the Hip. Wayne and baby on the other hand sound like they are about to have a divorce. It's already wayyyyyy too personal between them. And there were money issues it seems back then and probably other shyt....you think they've gotten better? Doesn't look like it.
 

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Nah, he woulda been better off.

Not saying Jay can't be a Shark, but one of the main reasons that Wayne is probably feeling like he is is because of the emotional connection behind all of this. You got this nikka literally calling himself your father after making you're whole life path dependent on his will. This music shyt ain't family oriented like that...it can be friendly if you're lucky.

Jay and Wayne could have been friends just like Ye and Jay are...them nikkas aren't joined at the Hip. Wayne and baby on the other hand sound like they are about to have a divorce. It's already wayyyyyy too personal between them. And there were money issues it seems back then and probably other shyt....you think they've gotten better? Doesn't look like it.

Wayne seems to be a little bit naive. So, I still think he would have been abused by Jay. .

However, you're right about the nature and the effects of the baby/Wayne relationship. The very weird father/son relationship make it worse.

At the end of the day, Wayne was fukked either way, but he had more chance with Jay.

So maybe going with Jay back in 06 was indeed the best choice for him.
 

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:yeshrug:Should have signed with Hov when you had the chance.

:birdman:Now get back in the booth plei boi.

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Hand rubbing is at an ALL TIME HIGH

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she shouldn't be talking, i seen this about her on another board




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damn I thought wendy was better than that.....wow..

For those of you who thought you'd never see a Carter VI, its now looking like a real possibility-- though it won't be Lil Wayne on the mic. According to Young Thug-- who has continuously cited Wayne as his sole influence --his next project will be titled Carter VI.

“I just feel like I’m that big,” said Thug, speaking to DJ Whoo Kid on the title. “Cause he feel like after Tha Carter V he ain’t gonna make no more music. Cause he feel like can’t nobody make music like that,” explained the rapper, alluding to the fact that he took Wayne's claim as a challenge. "I'm going straight at his ass".

Thugger also spoke of his experience at SXSW, which he almost didn't attend. “fukk yeah, I enjoyed it. I didn’t even wanna go at first, man," he said. "When I [stayed] there for like three, four days. Oh yeah, I ain’t never missing the next one. I feel like if I did step into the world I wouldn’t feel like it’s no competition.

:russ::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

hell nah:mjlol:
 

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Nah, he woulda been better off.

Not saying Jay can't be a Shark, but one of the main reasons that Wayne is probably feeling like he is is because of the emotional connection behind all of this. You got this nikka literally calling himself your father after making you're whole life path dependent on his will. This music shyt ain't family oriented like that...it can be friendly if you're lucky.

Jay and Wayne could have been friends just like Ye and Jay are...them nikkas aren't joined at the Hip. Wayne and baby on the other hand sound like they are about to have a divorce. It's already wayyyyyy too personal between them. And there were money issues it seems back then and probably other shyt....you think they've gotten better? Doesn't look like it.
Jay & Kanye aren't really friends. Jay coat-tailed and spring boarded off Kanye for a good number of years. Now Kanye's commercially simmering down and looking more like a touring act than a recording commercial act Jay has distanced himself from Ye and they probably low-key have problems. But Kanye seems to have a good team of his own so his money is straight. Any problems Kanye has with Jay will be personal and that's it. Kanye seems to do whatever he wants at Def Jam.

Weezy doesn't have good people around him. So if he went the Jay route those years ago he would be beefing Jay too.
 

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Kanye was close to signing to Cash Money with his boy Mikkey Halsted back in 2001. Mikkey is referred to on 'Last Call' as the "artist" who left Kanye's company.

Here are a few excerpts from an interview where Mikkey talks about how crooked they are.

Cash Money told me they were going to put my album out three months after I signed, and that since Juvenile had just left, I was the one that was going to take his spot. So I signed the papers, and after I did that, everything changed. It went from Kanye producing my entire album, to Kanye getting no tracks. They were mad that Kanye didn’t sign, so they didn’t want to pay him to do any tracks on the album. They wanted Mannie [Fresh] to do it all. And at that point I told them, “I don’t care what you do with the contracts, because now, I quit. I’m going to quit rapping if Kanye can’t get tracks on my album.” So I walked out the office. If they weren’t going to let Kanye, who gave me the confidence to do what I do, to produce on my album, then I was going to walk away from rapping. So they finally changed their mind, and they bought a handful of tracks from him – that’s the money he actually used to move to New York when he finally left Chicago.
I still haven’t received any of the my publishing money from all of the writing that I did while I was there, but I still have a good relationship with a lot of the people who were there at the time, like Stone and Lac and even Lil Wayne. Those are people that I love and have love for to this day.

Yeah I remember seeing you rap for the first time in the video for Lil Wayne’s “Shine” with you and Mack 10 on it

Yep that was back in 2002 – that’s crazy. That was like my debut for coming out and that’s why I thought I was on the fast track at Cash Money – but it didn’t work out like that. Then they offered me $10,000 for 50% of my publishing…

What? (Laughs)

(Laughs) I said “you gotta be fukkin stupid!”, because they own everyone else on the label’s publishing. That shyt’s crazy, man. I wasn’t gonna let them rape me completely. I mean they still got me a little bit, but I wasn’t going to give in like some of the other people.

So finally, we got the lawyers involved and a bunch of other labels came knocking like SRC, Virgin, even the people at Universal. I had some shyt over there that will never see the light of day, but once I blow up, they’ll finally want to put it out.

Full interview.
Read more at http://www.fakeshoredrive.com/2008/05/fsd-interviews-mikkey-halsted.html/#P4Z5GisgsgMLd6Ef.99
 

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On some real talk shyt, it's fukked up if Baby doesn't let Wayne off the label. Dude literally saved CM after everybody left and if Wayne would've went with Jay, CM would've been gone by now. Wayne also brought him two Superstars in Drake and Nicki and had them at the top of the rap game. This is some shyt you get killed for in the streets.


Hold up....

Irv Gotti brought Nikki to cash money...And Irv told her not to worry about birdmans 1st contract cause she was very worried about it. Unless Irv been lying all these years.... :camby:
 
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