WELL DAMN i didn't know JUSTIN COMBS PUBLISHING was still eating off of JADAKISS SOLO ALBUMS

[bigbadbossup2012]

yes your chit was shut down. youre just in denial. the same way that youre trying to side-skirt that outkast comment. I SEE YOU.

and i already know you dont really care for outkast, so let me bring up an example that hits home. the same thing that youre saying about the lox, could easily be said about the dogg pound. but i bet if somebody said that chit about the dogg pound, you would have a big bad heart attack.

and since when was 7 mil the average amount of units sold EVER!!?? ON WHAT PLANET!!?? and the rest of this silly-chit i already shut down bout a year ago, concerning RR & bad boy.

who cares what rap crew outkast ushered in. the dungeon family wasnt even all that popular or big. we're talking about the label & the machine that they were under. they were less vital to that regime than the lox was to theirs. and outkast's sales went up years later when they became a crossover novelty act. youre not saying nothing.

and cinncinnatti bootlegging has absolutely nothing on east coast bootlegging. youre looking foolish in here.

what does 2pac have to do with this? youre all over the place, reaching for all sorts of straws.

You typed alot but said nothing (you cant match me in this shyt,you a lil nikka in comparison)
My sales comparison to the lox and the camps they were in (in the same time frame) is an iron clad argument for their wackness.
That's like going to the club with a posse of homeboys that fukk a new ho twice a week and you fukk a new ho every 6 months,though you're in the same club with the same successful crew. It means you're a loser.

I didnt side step the outkast comment,what rap group brought in outkast?
As far as dogg pound,their crew had just did Chronic 3 mil,doggystyle 5mil,Murder was the case 2mil,above the rim 2mil and then THEY did 2 mil. Nowhere near as bad as the lox.
But for the record I never loved the doggfood album. I thought it was a step down from the preceding deathrow projects,though it was cool.

 

[Wacky D]

You typed alot but said nothing (you cant match me in this shyt,you a lil nikka in comparison)
My sales comparison to the lox and the camps they were in (in the same time frame) is an iron clad argument for their wackness.
That's like going to the club with a posse of homeboys that fukk a new ho twice a week and you fukk a new ho every 6 months,though you're in the same club with the same successful crew. It means you're a loser.

I didnt side step the outkast comment,what rap group brought in outkast?
As far as dogg pound,their crew had just did Chronic 3 mil,doggystyle 5mil,Murder was the case 2mil,above the rim 2mil and then THEY did 2 mil. Nowhere near as bad as the lox.
But for the record I never loved the doggfood album. I thought it was a step down from the preceding deathrow projects,though it was cool.

the fact that you would even expect a group like the lox to move units like puff & mase, or dmx says more about you than it says about the lox.

it doesnt matter who put outkast on. you act as if they were a str8-laced hip-hop group. they were designed for the crossover from jump but were still far from a top priority at the label. they were basically a purist backpacking(S.O.M.) version of arrested development pushed & marketed by the biggest machine in black music history. BE SMART SON.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

the fact that you would even expect a group like the lox to move units like puff & mase, or dmx says more about you than it says about the lox.

it doesnt matter who put outkast on. you act as if they were a str8-laced hip-hop group. they were designed for the crossover from jump but were still far from a top priority at the label. they were basically a purist backpacking(S.O.M.) version of arrested development pushed & marketed by the biggest machine in black music history. BE SMART SON.

Why not? Were they on the Benjamins,in the video and on that album twice.

Werent they on biggies album.


Werent they on mase album and yet in another video?


Werent they on eve's album?
Didnt they have Dmx on a single,didnt they appear on dmx first 2 albums?

Didnt they appear on Jay-z's album?

Werent they marketed as crew members with dmx & eve?

Didnt they have the same producers?

Werent they dancing around in shiny suits with mase in feels so good?



Werent they on the front of puffy's 7millie album with him?

You cant win this. i come with facts,you come with emotion and BS.

 

[Archimedes]

Puffy a scumbag. He the worse type of nikka.

Out here robbing artists for money he dont need cause hes so rich its just a number in his accountants file. I seen nikkas like that, its not even about money for these fukkers, they like having control over peple... Power and control.

If you take advantage of someone who dont know better just cause you can, for shyt you dont need, then you deserve to die for that shyt.

If lox were really bout that someone from the family woulda got hit. Im surprised he never got touched with all the people he fukked... His kids can't have security as tight as him?

 

['Lando]

His kids can't have security as tight as him?

thats fukked up yo ....

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

people need to realize... THIS WASN'T THE LOX BAD BOY DEAL

the lox had 2 different contracts.. not even counting the one before bad boy


they had a deal that puff bought them out of, when they signed with puff... that's deal 1. the one they went on a campaign to get out of. the whole "let the lox go" shirts and radio interviews.. they pulled this bullshyt back then while ON the label. acting like they couldn't have got lawyers and sat down with him before all that. saying after all that time around the business, they still should have been clueless.

this shows because.......

in order to let them go, puff made a SECOND contract. which stated everything he said in the second interview. that in order to get off the label, this was their payment to him. cause like he said, jimmy iovine ain't letting you go, baby ain't letting you go, suge wasn't letting you go, def jam wasn't letting you go. but he would always let you go, for a fee



so the lox didn't have to sign the first deal.. they could have kept building their buzz and waited... they had already been burned once, did they learn.... no

ok they sign with puff.. they obviously didn't like something.. did they get a lawyer and dee and waah and come to him and try to work out a nice deal... nah they embarrassed their OWNER in the press and talked shyt about him.... they could have stayed, but they chose to leave... but did they still sit down, and sign that deal once again... sure did


then comes this time.. they want their pub back... do they go sit down, get lawyers, etc.... nope... go to radio and cry about it.. sheek wasn't quiet cause an album coming.. puff don't own sheek pub.. and sheek has the most investments and money out of the 3... sheek didn't give a fukk..

but anyway they still haven't learned the business... and still going to these same media tactics to get their way



look at the latest breakfast club interview

"so now that the lox is free, do you want to sign to a major or go indy"



styles: "i want to go indy but jada just want to sit back and let the label do everything... he'd rather not have to do all the work"


you been getting jerked your entire career.. you finally have back everything... completely free... pub is back, you own your masters, no 360 or anything.... and the next move you want to make is sign back to a major label so you don't have to do any work


well that's why they take percentages.. they ain't working for free... nor paying you to sit on your ass

you can blame puff for a lot of shyt.. but it's almost 20 years later and these dudes ain't doing shyt on a business level with their "legend" status

 

['Lando]

they had a deal that puff bought them out of, when they signed with puff... that's deal 1

what? i thought that they originally had signed to bad boy all the way back in 1995 but under a different name, "The Warlocks" or just "Warlocks" after Mary J Blige had discovered them and then passed a tape of theirs onto puff, or are u talking about the Ruff Ryder mangement situation?

cause like he said, jimmy iovine ain't letting you go, baby ain't letting you go, suge was letting you go, def jam wasn't letting you go. but he would always let you go, for a fee

wtf u mean suge? are u talking about that too gangsta for radio shyt back in 2000 or whatever? i dont think they were actually signed to him for that ...or are u or was puff just talking in a hypothetical/theoretical sense about all of the record label/label heads?

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

what? i thought that they originally had signed to bad boy all the way back in 1995 but under a different name, "The Warlocks" or just "Warlocks" after Mary J Blige had discovered them and then passed a tape of theirs onto puf? or are u talking about the Ruff Ryder situation?

wtf u mean suge? are u talking about that too gangsta for radio shyt back in 2000 or whatever? i dont think they were actually signed to him for that ...or are u or was puff just talking in a hypothetical/theoretical sense?

they was signed to some local label bullshyt before they ever got to puff... that's the game.. 90% of artists are signed to a local bullshyt label at first that gets them hot in 3-4 states... they then use that to get to the majors.. it's RARE that you'll go from a nobody financing on your own, to a def jam artist with no investor/label


suge wasn't letting nikkas just leave death row... he didn't give two fukks about you crying or whatever else... you had to sue to get suge to even pay you, let alone willingly discuss letting you go

 

['Lando]

they was signed to some local label bullshyt before they ever got to puff... that's the game.. 90% of artists are signed to a local bullshyt label at first that gets them hot in 3-4 states... they then use that to get to the majors.. it's RARE that you'll go from a nobody financing on your own, to a def jam artist with no investor/label


suge wasn't letting nikkas just leave death row... he didn't give two fukks about you crying or whatever else... you had to sue to get suge to even pay you, let alone willingly discuss letting you go

but i thought u just said suge was letting you go

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

but i thought u just said suge was letting you go

i was wondering what you was talking about lol... that was a typo.. my bad

 

[Flav]

I can hear Puff in that loud static effect voice yellin...

"CMON YALL LETS DO THIS FOR BIG! LETS KEEP NY ON THE MAP FOR THE NOTORIOUS ONE!!!"

pump them nikkas up and sold them straight dreams


then walked off like

JACKPOT! I OWN ALL THEM nikkaS!

 

[Wild self]

people need to realize... THIS WASN'T THE LOX BAD BOY DEAL

the lox had 2 different contracts.. not even counting the one before bad boy


they had a deal that puff bought them out of, when they signed with puff... that's deal 1. the one they went on a campaign to get out of. the whole "let the lox go" shirts and radio interviews.. they pulled this bullshyt back then while ON the label. acting like they couldn't have got lawyers and sat down with him before all that. saying after all that time around the business, they still should have been clueless.

this shows because.......

in order to let them go, puff made a SECOND contract. which stated everything he said in the second interview. that in order to get off the label, this was their payment to him. cause like he said, jimmy iovine ain't letting you go, baby ain't letting you go, suge wasn't letting you go, def jam wasn't letting you go. but he would always let you go, for a fee



so the lox didn't have to sign the first deal.. they could have kept building their buzz and waited... they had already been burned once, did they learn.... no

ok they sign with puff.. they obviously didn't like something.. did they get a lawyer and dee and waah and come to him and try to work out a nice deal... nah they embarrassed their OWNER in the press and talked shyt about him.... they could have stayed, but they chose to leave... but did they still sit down, and sign that deal once again... sure did


then comes this time.. they want their pub back... do they go sit down, get lawyers, etc.... nope... go to radio and cry about it.. sheek wasn't quiet cause an album coming.. puff don't own sheek pub.. and sheek has the most investments and money out of the 3... sheek didn't give a fukk..

but anyway they still haven't learned the business... and still going to these same media tactics to get their way



look at the latest breakfast club interview

"so now that the lox is free, do you want to sign to a major or go indy"



styles: "i want to go indy but jada just want to sit back and let the label do everything... he'd rather not have to do all the work"


you been getting jerked your entire career.. you finally have back everything... completely free... pub is back, you own your masters, no 360 or anything.... and the next move you want to make is sign back to a major label so you don't have to do any work


well that's why they take percentages.. they ain't working for free... nor paying you to sit on your ass

you can blame puff for a lot of shyt.. but it's almost 20 years later and these dudes ain't doing shyt on a business level with their "legend" status

That mentality is prevalent among older east coast MCs who were conditioned from what labels were in the 90s, where the label itself pampered any good prospect artists. A lot of them didn't tour year-round like today's artists. Outside of Nas, Ghostface, and a few others in that time period, a lot of them took a good 3-4 months of the year chilling, smoking weed, hanging out on the block, etc.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That mentality is prevalent among older east coast MCs who were conditioned from what labels were in the 90s, where the label itself pampered any good prospect artists. A lot of them didn't tour year-round like today's artists. Outside of Nas, Ghostface, and a few others in that time period, a lot of them took a good 3-4 months of the year chilling, smoking weed, hanging out on the block, etc.

but this is 2014... and you've NEVER sold or had the legend of nas, ghost or a few others... so why, after 3 failed deals, and 15 years in the game... 15 out of 15 being jerked by a major.. would your FIRST thought be to go be in debt to another major

this is what i mean.. they got no more educated in the music BUSINESS as day 1. still looking for a check and the label to do all the work.. even when it's painfully obvious that indy or major, the artists these days still have to do all the damn work

 

[360dagod]

Sheek was lowkeythat he aint have to go thru the bullshyt

 

[Droopy]

Yall ain't killin nobody man