Well Damn never knew Future was this bad when it's comes to performing live

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Rappers ain't exactly known for being the best performers, I've been to plenty of jay z concerts and he's cool, but outside of Kanye ain't no rapper entertaining you live on the level of an entertainer like beyonce Madonna, Janet, them old rock groups. nikkas basically stand on stage or jump around like idiots, it is what it is.

And future just looked high as fukk in that clip
 

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Rappers ain't exactly known for being the best performers, I've been to plenty of jay z concerts and he's cool, but outside of Kanye ain't no rapper entertaining you live on the level of an entertainer like beyonce Madonna, Janet, them old rock groups. nikkas basically stand on stage or jump around like idiots, it is what it is.

And future just looked high as fukk in that clip
what would you recommend they add?
 

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true. i remember i went to a Migos show last summer, they do they same shyt but it was in a club so nobody really give a fukk we just wanna see them on stage and rock out. I was drunk and I knew they were just lip singing but it was packed and everybody was havin fun.

The future show I went to was in a theatre. he wasn't lip singing which was cool. Fab was there and rapped live as well.

again you have to take into account how many shows they been doin for the past week, month, year. your voice won't hold up especially if you are recording in the studio in between.


When you offkey you have those voice problems on tour.


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Two things:

1 - who thought a guy who auto tunes his voice and sounded like he's half dead off lean was going to sound good live?

2 - You guys don't actually think EVERY rapper in the 90s had a good stage show right? Cuz I can tell you, a lot of them didn't. For many years hip hop shows suffered from poor mixing/engineering, (too heavy of bass, mic levels are wrong, can't balance properly, etc) too many muhfukkas with mics on stage, and just the over all venues most artists were getting booked in.

Now that Hip Hop is the most popular music genre in the country they get bigger stages which exposes things that have been going on for a while.
 

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I never had an issue with the words rocking any of the venues these dudes did. Not to mention, these dudes actually never were grassroots artists and all plants.
As they never actually worked their way to being a real draw in the grassroots manner.
The record industry likes to fake market fake pop artist.
As, having this mystical lying ability and track record as a grassroots drawing artist when they were never a grassroots underground draw, ever.

Which is why they are horrible live.
They never moved a crowd unless it was gifted to them by a resource group from a label or planted from a past major label act with resources.
As, the only real grassroots artists.
Who really flanked the number one drawing underground solo act.
I, never missed a break and was so out of breath the DJ had to back me up.
Plus, me and ju do not back each others vocals up.
All because we are real professional real emcees and rappers.
Who actually rap the songs in full performance bar to bar on stage we wrote, recorded and performed the same way as it was intended and recorded.
Plus, in my case I handled melody and hooks and never suffered attrition vocally on stage.
All because I actually have a real skillset that is pedigreed.
As, one of the best in rap and especially amoung my contemporaries.
Which this group of pop artists are an I can safely say.
They are not real skilled artists at all.
They are classically trained jingle writers, friends of jingle writers or a pop artist trying to prey upon the genre of rap and rnb erroneously.
On no day, have I seen or witnessed dead space on stage backing one of the best emcees ever.
Nor, in my own show as the protege to the legend have I suffered attrition and dead space sonically and vocally in stage as an act.
So, fans excuses this and excuse this for these reasons.
The problem is fans giving power to wack artists.
All because fans see microwaveable ability of pop artists.
to draw and feel acceptable to allow lesser skilled artists to rock.
All because the fans want to use the same lesser skilled artist platform for themselves, and their own endeavors.
When they are not skilled at all, in the realm pillar or performance ability.
All required to really draw as a real grassroots artist in rap.
So, allowing a lesser skilled artists a number based pass system.
allows them a blueprint for what these fans and prospective unskilled no-talents perceive.
As a blueprint in a fraudulent draw based business as a way they can use to get on.
When it is all low quality artist and ola paid for lie they are supporting and empowering.
All because fans feel they should be able to rock with no real skill.
After, witnessing an entire fifteen to eighteen years period of pop marketed style artists.
Who come from the jive, Koch Disney music distributed braintrust and era of the past fifteen years.
Which has been studied in the UK to domestic pop artist and Disney Mickey mouse club turned adult artist braintrust.
This is the Disney/jive generation of pop.
that Koch and Disney channel planned by using autotune and Disney based pop sentimental artists.
To sway the generation to like jive foreign pop import to Mickey mouse club/ cheetah girl brand of communications major style jingle and pop music.
This type of music has dominated pop's underbelly and outlets from tv to music for a decade plus.
That, now we are dealing with their fanbase coming of age.
searching for adult/mature alternatives and the marketplace using market research trying to capitalize.
All because they want to eliminate the culture from music and push commercial pop jingle style music.
to fuel their new and even larger commercial consumer saturation method.
by garnering ad money without losing any of their draw and the fan base to maturity.

what could be called child to adult drawing profit attrition rates.
Which is why music styled like the cheetah girls.
Which is autotune style rnb, to Miley Cyrus grows up to silento.
All have dominated the pop landscape in overwhelming fashion.
Past what, typically is the market reach and oversaturation method.
Typically, associated with the marketing permeation footprint for Disney.
or child based artist from nickelodeon.
Which is an extension of the last gen's UK to domestic pop artist explosion.
That allowed former Disney turned boyiimen protege band nsync to flourish.
Whom are all Disney kids and have it followed up or seguewayed by Brittany spears and xtina.
As an extension of the jive based draw of backstreet to segueway to Brittany as jive's new gateway pop artist.
Now, the experiment has changed to not just a few artists or groups.
The scope has changed to never having attrition because of coming of age and destroy their ability to draw.
By making all of music into some form of Disney meets jive jingle inspired pop music construct.
That will have no drawing attrition rate and never suffer a complete loss of profit/revenue/draw.
Disney, and pop outlets like jive have learned.
how to create a new non-cultural pop consumer base.
That starts young and never has any attrition rate from children to the adult crowd.
The way it used to.
In the old all actors are slaves of the movie house.
They have relearned how to make the entertainment slave all over again from the Judy garland days.
Judy garland is the model they want all entertainment welled in.
With lawless drug and pill addiction.
To cover up the I own you, to pedophilia based ideals of big movie houses.
All to eliminate the artist ability to ever garner the proper pay for their actual draw.
If you are a lowly child actor and entertainment based slave for an arthouse or movie studio.

Some shyt hip hop is firmly against.
Which is why break'n spoke on the dangers of art house and classically trained institutions.
Including, the dangers of those types acquiring any element of hiphop for study.
So, you can expect more DJ lance fakkit style rap.
Like the faq friend of special k who turbo and ozone ignored in break'n.
That type and any other frame or model they use to draw.
That, silently mirrors the gay roster of back street and nsync.
who are defunct from child star to adults.
as a formerly effective pop drawing construct.
Which used to act and suffer attrition, in the adult market.
To cancel out the child actor.
or, classically trained musical pop act in drawing effectiveness and created attrition.
Now, they have found using autotune.
Movie houses and labels, can bypass the attrition rate from child star to adult.
To keep the child drawing constructs and mediums as blockbuster draws as an adult.
Which also shows they don't want the pop crowd.
to gain any culture and effectively never grow up.
Just so they can imprison all of pop culture.
as their own personal rat hole to suck a profit from.


Art Barr

The numbers on the spread sheet and market research.
don't want to see growth as a person.
Nor, do they want you to support fully skilled artist growth for the reasons listed in this response.
They have achieved being able to DJ lance the rap and pop artist game.
Plus, make rampant cluck fiend drug use okay.
All because they need the mistakes ignored of pop artists.
as that of a child adult.
So, any pop artist that comes of age can be bullet proof draw wise.
As they run into issues from being an industry made cluck and publically are dealing with these issues.
While never suffering any attrition to their draw and thus able to avoid criticism.
As the art house capitalizes on every outlet of their draw.
as a conflict of interest and it is never brought to light.
They have underpaid clucked't out fiend artists.
as virtual slaves in the art house or movie house.
Also, that virtual slave artist can never buck the system.
All because they are underpaid, and pr'd as a talented junkie actor/entertainer and are ignorant.
Like mostly all school dropout or home schooled child artist before the civil rights movements.
Making artist powerless to be exploited, for their entire drawing career and after.
So, no artists can ever buck the system and challenge the profit dispersement of the art house using pr or their own resources.
Which include the public, pr sentiment and capital they are not seeing because the art house is taking it all from them.

You are watching the game unfold and are to young or not experienced enough to see it.

Now that's the Art Bar I remember :whoo:
 
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