We’re months away from anyone being able to code using AI

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Yup, saw this too. I was eager to try it out at work a few days ago. Can be a potential exponential time-saver over code templates.

If this benefits anybody imo it'll be the ones who take their time to know their stuff most of all and can make sense of the output code.

The average beginner may have a difficult time debugging and understanding the generated code. So the average person without any programming background may do exponentially more harm than good with this at your company if you hire them.

End of the day if/when AI-generated code starts costing a company or customers business/liable money they going to start paying people who know their stuff so they can fix it or hire cats who know how to program with it from jump. If somebody comes up in there and changes some logic in that generated code to account for an edge case, do they have the knowledge to fix it?

I know an SRE who works for a bank that loses about $10,000 per second when their backend gets bad. Ain't no way you want to trust non-knowledgeable people or a general AI with fixing that kind of code. Somebody's billion dollar company can be worth pennies in a single day if that doesn't get resolved or is thinking an AI will fix it in realtime.

Like would you simply copy and paste into your terminal/command prompt some random code snippet you find on the internet without understanding it?
Same thing here. Companies know they ain't going to hire any old body to use generated code if they themselves don't know what that code does. They may be asking for big time consequences if they do.

If anything, I think this can be a real good tool for either:
  1. The layman interested in learning programming.
  2. A programmer who wants to generate code because they don't want to scaffold/prototype something.
  3. A programmer who runs into a difficult time trying to come up with a function/small feature logic and may need some ideas.
  4. Maybe someone who wants to jump start an app/idea/company.
I think those who are in the 2nd or 3rd category can get big productivity boosts with this and use it like a paired-programming assistant.
 
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What does this mean for coding careers if the required skill can be done by pretty much anybody?
 

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What does this mean for coding careers if the required skill can be done by pretty much anybody?

Doesn't mean much since the purpose of coders is to create custom stuff that things like AI or templates can't accomplish. Coding can't really be done by anybody and this won't change it. AI isn't going to be able to rewrite an existing codebase or make a highly complicated app with very specific requirements. It will be geared moreso to generating simple apps and if you really need any real customization, you'd have to know how to code and go in and alter the generated code.
 

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This is a game changer. I tried it over the weekend and was really blown away.

I use a chrome extension that will allow this to work alongside queries in Google.
 

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Yup, saw this too. I was eager to try it out at work a few days ago. Can be a potential time-saver over coding templates.

If this benefits anybody imo it'll be the ones who take their time to know their stuff most of all and can make sense of the output code.

The average beginner may have a difficult time debugging and understanding the generated code. So the average person without any programming background may do exponentially more harm than good with this at your company if you hire them.

End of the day if/when AI-generated code starts costing a company or customers business/liable money they going to start paying people who know their stuff so they can fix it or hire cats who know how to program with it from jump.

I know an SRE who works for a bank that loses about $10,000 per second when their backend gets bad. Ain't no way you want to trust non-knowledgeable people or a general AI with fixing that kind of code. Somebody's billion dollar company can be worth pennies in a single day if that doesn't get resolved or is thinking an AI will fix it in realtime.

Like would you simply copy and paste into your terminal/command prompt some random code snippet you find on the internet without understanding it?
Same thing here. Companies know they ain't going to hire any old body to use generated code if they themselves don't know what that code does. They may be asking for big time consequences if they do.

If anything, I think this can be a real good learning tool for the coding layman interested in programming.

There are already tons of apps that generate codes now depending on the programming language. But you’d hit the nail on the head with the debugging & pruning. So, beginners will always have the same problems & you can really use wholesome generated codes for big projects unless you want it to fail.

I remember when I was doing my final project in Uni years ago. The software I was asked to build was a web based one & cos I spent a big chunk of my time on documentation & other things I was dealing with in my personal life - I had to generate all the HTML codes (about 16 web pages I linked together with JavaScript & Ajax) I used for the web part of it the project. But I still had to debug, prune & customise everything. Yes, it saved a lot of time & got the job done. However, if a novice would’ve tried the same trick - he/she would’ve failed the project.

So, it’s not as simplistic as most think it would be. But it would definitely help & save time.
 

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Considering coding is usually done in billable hours, I could see this being a way to cut down on a bunch of R&D hours and making things cheaper across the board.

Let’s be real, most companies just want a standard look. They are looking for something unique.
 
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There is a whole rabbit hole you can go down when it comes to A.I.

I really think the applications this and other programs is immeasurable.
 

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There are already tons of apps that generate codes now depending on the programming language. But you’d hit the nail on the head with the debugging & pruning. So, beginners will always have the same problems & you can really use wholesome generated codes for big projects unless you want it to fail.

I remember when I was doing my final project in Uni years ago. The software I was asked to build was a web based one & cos I spent a big chunk of my time on documentation & other things I was dealing with in my personal life - I had to generate all the HTML codes (about 16 web pages I linked together with JavaScript & Ajax) I used for the web part of it the project. But I still had to debug, prune & customise everything. Yes, it saved a lot of time & got the job done. However, if a novice would’ve tried the same trick - he/she would’ve failed the project.

So, it’s not as simplistic as most think it would be. But it would definitely help & save time.
Yup. Incredible tool imo if you need to save time and already are a point where you can read/write code.

Like I added in some of the edits to my original post: it can be like a pair-programming assistant to someone who knows their stuff. It can make that person multiple times more productive.

To the average person though that still doesn't understand code, it really won't do much outside of give you a rigid starting point. For them they can experiment with changing values around, learn what the code snippets are doing and use it like a teaching tool - but hardly anything enterprise-level and ready for production.
 

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Yup. Incredible tool imo if you need to save time and already are a point where you can read/write code.

Like I added in some of the edits to my original post: it can be like a pair-programming assistant to someone who knows their stuff. It can make that person multiple times more productive.

To the average person though that still doesn't understand code, it really won't do much outside of give you a rigid starting point. For them they can experiment with changing values around, learn what the code snippets are doing and use it like a teaching tool - but hardly anything enterprise-level and ready for production.

Facts.

Imagine using this for a SCRUM project whereby the requirements are going to perpetually keep changing. How many AI generated codes are they going to plug-in as the requirements change? The project is going to be a big mess.

Regardless, it’s a great development that will make things easier.
 
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