Were the first people in america black or indian

[Benefited]

Ignore dna and every other source of credible evidence and eyeball anthropology by playing pictionary breh.

Conflate dark skin some 10s of thousands years to mean some kind of genetic affinity to what's known as "black people" in America today breh.

Be a desperate fool still trying to claim other people's history when AADOS have one of the richest most influential cultures in the world today breh.

Consider the white mans dna evidence "credible" brehs
Egyptians will be historically european in 10 years tops because of you nikkas,which will make them known as the forefathers of "white people" of america today.
And I don't even care about Egypt,but I can't wait to see if people like you are in an uproar when it happens,or if you trust the proccess

 

[Supper]

Consider the white mans dna evidence "credible" brehs

Think labeling everything that is contrary to your historical delusions as "white man's this and white man's that" is a valid argument breh

Egyptians will be historically european in 10 years tops because of you nikkas,which will make them known as the forefathers of "white people" of america today.
And I don't even care about Egypt,but I can't wait to see if people like you are in an uproar when it happens,or if you trust the proccess

Contradict yourself in the next statement brehs.

DNA doesn't show ancient egyptians people or rulers to be european by and large except for the periods where egypt was conquered by them. Dna shows ancient egyptians to have genetic affinities closest to that of native north and horn of africans(Neither of which has anything to do with us Afr'Ams btw).

White people must have a pro North and Horn of African agenda, brehs!

 

[Benefited]

You actually misrepresenting my position makes it a strawman and stating something about being 'limited to European programming' is, indeed, 'poisoning the well'.



Your entire argument is based on robbing an entire group's history and supplanting it with ours.

You're a damned hypocrite.​

I'm not doing that at all,I'm also not willing to rob my own people of history,based on european science/european peoples misinterpretation or even a more sinister deletion of history. Im not robbing native americans of history by saying "black" people were native americans. The only problem here is that black people can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact you could have native americas who closer resembled what we know as native americans today,while also having native americans who closer resemebled what we think of as africans/blacks today. As if black people of the same tribe don't exist all over the world who have different features among themselves,different skin tones,hair types etc.Limited to European programming is just the facts of 95% of black people who were born and raised in america,you are bound by your forced perceptions:respect:. Now if native americans don't want to acknowledge they are apart of our history,they are robbing themselves.

 

[Benefited]

Think labeling everything that is contrary to your historical delusions as "white man's this and white man's that" is a valid argument breh



Contradict yourself in the next statement brehs.

DNA doesn't show ancient egyptians people or rulers to be european by and large except for the periods where egypt was conquered by them. Dna shows ancient egyptians to have genetic affinities closest to that of native north and horn of africans(Neither of which has anything to do with us Afr'Ams btw).

White people have a pro North and Horn of African agenda, brehs!

Its called cherry picking,and the more time goes by I highly doubt the white man will be specefic as you were here. "Pictures" which you just tried to downplay,will show Egyptians as europeans and the future generations will go with it. History books will give the short hand version that only cover the periods where egypt was conquered.
But hey,not everybody has foresight:respect:

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I'm not doing that at all

Yes, you are, you just can't see it because of this wack smiley........

You're doing to the Native Americans the EXACT SAME THING Europeans did to US.​

 

[Supper]

Its called cherry picking,and the more time goes by I highly doubt the white man will be specefic as you were here. "Pictures" which you just tried to downplay,will show Egyptians as europeans and the future generations will go with it.

Even if this crackpot conspiracy came to pass, it wouldn't matter because the dna results are all online, and therefore permanent, which shows ancient egyptians to be genetically native to north east Africa. Not to mention linguistically they also cluster with this group as well. No need to play pictionary.

History books will give the short hand version that only cover the periods where egypt was conquered.

This conspiracy of your's just doesn't work in the age of information. All matter of info is democratized more than ever and will only continue to become more so. That puts the consumer in a position of power more than ever.

Non-factual BS gets called out and refuted almost on the spot nowadays if it gains enough traction, as it doesn't even take an internet domain name let alone getting a whole book published to do so. A simple blog, social media account, or even youtube page is sufficient.

Facts are being uncovered(to the masses) as time goes on, not covered up.

 

[Benefited]

Yes, you are, you just can't see it because of this wack smiley........

You're doing to the Native Americans the EXACT SAME THING Europeans did to US.​

I clearly broke down how I wasn't,and now you are just misrepresenting my position like you just accused me of doing

Even if this crackpot conspiracy came to pass, it wouldn't matter because the dna results are all online, and therefore permanent, which shows ancient egyptians to be genetically native to north east Africa. Not to mention linguistically they also cluster with this group as well. No need to play pictionary.



This conspiracy of your's just doesn't work in the age of information. All matter of info is democratized more than ever and will only continue to become more so.

That puts the consumer in a position of power more than ever. Non-factual BS gets called out and refuted almost on the spot nowadays if it gains enough traction, as it doesn't even take an internet domain name let alone getting a whole book published to do so. A simple blog, social media account, or even youtube page is sufficient.

Facts are being uncovered(to the masses) as time goes on, not covered up.

You are assuming people who are around decades from now will care,the average person today pretty much goes with what they are told.

 

[Supper]

You are assuming people who are around decades from now will care,the average person today pretty much goes with what they are told.

If they would go out of their way ignore information that is readily and freely available to them digitally online, then why would they pay attention to and swallow wholesale what's in a "white man's book"?

Future generations finna shun the internet and their electronics and be literal book worms, or something?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I clearly broke down how I wasn't,and now you are just misrepresenting my position like you just accused me of doing

No, I know your position and effectively argue against it. You, on the other hand, have argued against a position I do not hold, therefore, a strawman.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

If they would go out of their way ignore information that is readily and freely available to them digitally online, then why would they pay attention to and swallow wholesale what's in a "white man's book"?

Breh LITERALLY stated that he didn't trust the 'White man's science'.....and then proceeded to use that VERY SAME SCIENCE to try and refute my argument against his claims.



Only on thecoli.com!!!!​

 

[Afrodroid]

The passionate energy that some of y'all spend here :mjwonkalol:

 

[Benefited]

If they would go out of their way ignore information that is readily and freely available to them digitally online, then why would they pay attention to and swallow wholesale what's in a "white man's book"?

Future generations finna shun the internet and their electronics and be literal book worms, or something?

Do you think people are using their electronics to research history right now? No,whatever they are taught in school is what they will remember a fact,and they will spend the rest of their lives just parroting what they learned and calling others stupid who don't believe that narrative that was forced on them.

No, I know your position and effectively argue against it. You, on the other hand, have argued against a position I do not hold, therefore, a strawman.​

We hold the same position it sounds like,your perception is just misguided much like the Europeans was.
Do you really believe there were not people among the so called native americans who looked black/african? When we have picture evidence that shows otherwise,eyewitness descriptions that say different?
Now what do you think happened once slaves came over from Africa,do you think the white man painstakingly made sure to differentiate Indians who looked like Africans into different categories so they wouldn't be confused as Africans? Or do you think they more than likely would have just been put in the same category and labeled African?Even in the bible we have been mistaken as being apart of a tribe we weren't from. When you study history,you know history repeats itself:respect:

I think you mistake my position as being that trans atlantic slave trade didn't happen, like many people who say black people were already here believe,but thats not my position.
My position is people who looked black/African were already here as Indians ,and through slavery just got mixed in and labeled as Africans because it was easier. We were here in the same tribes along with people who look like what you think of when you think Native Americans today,w/varying brown skin tones.

 

[Everythingg]

The Indians were black

Cacs came here and said they saw black people/negroes here. They also depicted the people as black. Thats all that matters really. Most of you nikkas is practically white supremacists believing that cacs left Europe and came to America and erased all the indigenous people there, then went to Africa and defeated Africans there, then brought millions upon millions of Africans to North and South America and populated the area with them.

 

[Everythingg]

My position is people who looked black/African were already here as Indians ,and through slavery just got mixed in and labeled as Africans because it was easier.

There was a law about that:

Virginia "Act I. It is enacted that all servants [...] which shall be imported into this country...whether Negroes, Moors, mulattoes or Indians who and whose parentage and native countries are not Christian at the time of their first purchase by some Christian [...] are hereby adjudged, deemed and taken to be slaves to all intents and purposes."

Negroes and moors were black and so were Indians.

 

[Atlanta 80s baby]

Just follow the migration trail. It's obvious the first native NA were from the beringia area.

What lineage are current south Americans. Majority beringians , nomadic euros and nomadic Africans interbreeding?