west coast......Ice Cube vs Pac?

[Roovers410]

it's time to get out of the closet.....

 

[the rhyme king]

pac for me i respect everything cube has done he laid the foundation for pac but pac took it way further then cube imo

 

[rapbeats]

pac for me i respect everything cube has done he laid the foundation for pac but pac took it way further then cube imo

pac didnt take what cube did further. dont lie to yourself.

pac was great, cube was great.

end of discussion.

 

[CHITLING flavored CEREAL]

thank you.

 

[the rhyme king]

pac didnt take what cube did further. dont lie to yourself.

pac was great, cube was great.

end of discussion.

u a idiot besides pac having the larger catalog and being a better lyricist

cube did'nt have no where near the range that pac had
in terms content and flows has cube ever rap in double time flow ? no

has pac quality deep songs political songs club songs street songs
introspective songs no cube did not do all that pac did all that and better.

 

[Ashtrey]

equal

 

[Mac Casper]

u a idiot besides pac having the larger catalog and being a better lyricist

cube did'nt have no where near the range that pac had
in terms content and flows has cube ever rap in double time flow ? no

has pac quality deep songs political songs club songs street songs
introspective songs no cube did not do all that pac did all that and better.

You're so retarded that even when I agree with you I still disagree with you

"has Cube ever rapped in a double time flow?"

 

[ISO]

You're so retarded that even when I agree with you I still disagree with you

"has Cube ever rapped in a double time flow?"

Pac did not take what Ice Cube did (political rap) and take it further , Rhyme King is such a Pac stan

 

[DoomzdayzV]

Cube easily. Pac came into the game with a whimper. Cube kicked the door down with both NWA's first and his solo first. 1990-1992 Cube owned hip hop period.

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

Cube

 

[Day_Walker]

As a pac stan I'll say Cube is criminally underrated and overlooked.

 

[rapbeats]

u a idiot besides pac having the larger catalog and being a better lyricist

cube did'nt have no where near the range that pac had
in terms content and flows has cube ever rap in double time flow ? no

has pac quality deep songs political songs club songs street songs
introspective songs no cube did not do all that pac did all that and better.

i'm just going to assume you are talking about the "are we there yet" cube. which means you were born in 1990 something. so it aint your fault. you only know what ya know.
you said cube didnt make club hits and party songs. not true. he made some later in his career that were just that and he made it obvious. others early on in his career were getting play in the club and parties(thats the old club hit, it wasnt a setup song that said the word club or VIP, etc it was just a good song with a decent enough danceable beat and a good enough hook to work with.)

Cube's party/club songs:

Check Yo Self (remix) (they would mix this song in with the original "the message) at parties all the time.

Friday - a hood party CLASSIC, probably was only understood by the Best coast.

We Be Clubbin- obvious choice

Pushin' Weight featuring Mr. Short Khop - played this in the parties and the clubs.

You Can Do It - featuring Mack Dime & Ms Toi


I refuse to list all of Cube's hood education songs. there's to many to list.

see there's one thing to say cube laid the foundation for Pac/DMX, etc. there's two different kinds of foundation laying. there's those that laid the foundation to the point of laying down how you rap, your style. but thats it. i would say that goes for a lot of the ORIGINATORS of hiphop. but then there are those rappers that laid your foundation on top of that they showed you how to build on it as well. guys like LL, Cube. these two showed you how to go platinum making your kind of music. CUBE showed you how to be HOOD and still sell records by the boat loads. when platinum wasnt even in the cards for most dudes. cube was going plat errrY year. and i wont even bring up NWA. we're just on cube the solo artist.

the dude went platinum from his rookie album to his 5th album. thats insane, especially for back then when going platinum wasnt even a dream for most dudes. going gold was the dream back then.

lets keep it 150, pac didnt BLOW until he finally had great production Me against the World. then when he hooked up with Dre and camp.

2Pacalypse Now went God after the fact. i mean it didnt go gold in 1991. all of cube's albums that went plat, went platinum that year or a year later.

Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. did not go plat in 93 or 94.

CUBE went plat out the gate. he wasnt using NAME brand production. Dre was not on his beats.

all of them other albums after all eyes on me blew up partially because makaveli was good but also because the man just died. all the rest of those albums selling was purely based on him dying. it happens to every big name artist.

imagine if cube would've died in 1994. he would've tripled his album sales on all of his previous albums as well as any lost tapes he had after his death.

 

[the rhyme king]

i'm just going to assume you are talking about the "are we there yet" cube. which means you were born in 1990 something. so it aint your fault. you only know what ya know.
you said cube didnt make club hits and party songs. not true. he made some later in his career that were just that and he made it obvious. others early on in his career were getting play in the club and parties(thats the old club hit, it wasnt a setup song that said the word club or VIP, etc it was just a good song with a decent enough danceable beat and a good enough hook to work with.)

Cube's party/club songs:

Check Yo Self (remix) (they would mix this song in with the original "the message) at parties all the time.

Friday - a hood party CLASSIC, probably was only understood by the Best coast.

We Be Clubbin- obvious choice

Pushin' Weight featuring Mr. Short Khop - played this in the parties and the clubs.

You Can Do It - featuring Mack Dime & Ms Toi


I refuse to list all of Cube's hood education songs. there's to many to list.

see there's one thing to say cube laid the foundation for Pac/DMX, etc. there's two different kinds of foundation laying. there's those that laid the foundation to the point of laying down how you rap, your style. but thats it. i would say that goes for a lot of the ORIGINATORS of hiphop. but then there are those rappers that laid your foundation on top of that they showed you how to build on it as well. guys like LL, Cube. these two showed you how to go platinum making your kind of music. CUBE showed you how to be HOOD and still sell records by the boat loads. when platinum wasnt even in the cards for most dudes. cube was going plat errrY year. and i wont even bring up NWA. we're just on cube the solo artist.

the dude went platinum from his rookie album to his 5th album. thats insane, especially for back then when going platinum wasnt even a dream for most dudes. going gold was the dream back then.

lets keep it 150, pac didnt BLOW until he finally had great production Me against the World. then when he hooked up with Dre and camp.

2Pacalypse Now went God after the fact. i mean it didnt go gold in 1991. all of cube's albums that went plat, went platinum that year or a year later.

Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. did not go plat in 93 or 94.

CUBE went plat out the gate. he wasnt using NAME brand production. Dre was not on his beats.

all of them other albums after all eyes on me blew up partially because makaveli was good but also because the man just died. all the rest of those albums selling was purely based on him dying. it happens to every big name artist.

imagine if cube would've died in 1994. he would've tripled his album sales on all of his previous albums as well as any lost tapes he had after his death.

pac first album did went gold breh when he came out and 1991 strictly 4 my nikkaz went platinum according to sound scan so i don't know where u got your numbers from

and pac was in movies also

and his albums were selling when he was alive dumb ass u a idiot im not going back and forth with yo stupid ass peace.

 

[Brown Ant]

Ice Cube.

 

[rapbeats]

pac first album did went gold breh when he came out and 1991 strictly 4 my nikkaz went platinum according to sound scan so i don't know where u got your numbers from

and pac was in movies also

and his albums were selling when he was alive dumb ass u a idiot im not going back and forth with yo stupid ass peace.

strictly went platinum in 1995 breh.

APRIL 19, 1995 to be exact. it went gold in 93. so it took 4 years to get plat status. thats because by the time he made his first great album right before he came to death row. people started to check for his old stuff. once he super blew up with da row. they bought more old stuff. then once he died. they bought even more old stuff. thats how it works. unless you're like LL or CUBE. you go plat out the box.

no need for people who slept on you at first to come around later. you're so hot from DAY 1 they cant pass you up.

let me prove my point.

Cube's rookie album AMERIKKkA's most released May 18, 1990... goes gold AUGUST 09, 1990. 3 months later. he was sitting on a GOld plaque. this is 1990 mind you.

Amerikkka's most goes Plat on SEPTEMBER 06, 1991. more or less one year later after its release date. this again is in 1991.

CUBE was on FIRE FROM DAY 1. face it.

Death certificate released on OCTOBER 21, 1991 went Platinum .....DECEMBER 20, 1991.. 2 months later friends. this is 1991. HOOD Music. he wasnt making songs for the radio. "songs for the club or for chicks." he was making ice cube nucca music. and they ate it up. he didnt have to get arrested to be seen. he didnt have to do movies back then to blow up his stardom. he didnt have to have a high profile rape trial to be in the news. all news is good news when you're a artist.

2pac was like the new era rappers to some degree. he was on camera like tmz was following him around since something crazy was always happening around pac. not necessarily is fault but it is what it is. this is another reason he sold so many records once that solid album dropped right before he came to da row. he dropped that album and was in all kind of trouble all on TV and what not. then he was doing movies.

CUbe wasnt doing movies back in his Rookie season or 2nd year. cube's mug was not on the TV all the time back in 91 due to him getting caught up in craziness. Cube's music spoke for itself. 2pacs did as well. but because other things also spoke for him he blew up even more. imagine if cube was in all sorts of crazy 2pac type situations all the way leading to that way of dying. cube may sold more then 2pac. even in an earlier era without that foundation laid like pac had laid for him by cube/nwa.

cube is the father to pac, dmx, nas, jigga. hood rapper talking about that hood life, talking about killas, stealas, D-dealas, and everything in between.