Westbrook haters been silent lately

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They win 75% of their games when he gets a triple double. It's that simple buddy. Greatest season since the big o, after losing a league MVP

Sports fans y'all. SMH.

 

[Suiken]

When Westbrick take his team to 55+ wins by himself, we'll talk.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I addressed this over and over, but ya'all still too dumb to understand. Weztbrook chases triple-doubles every game. Chasing triple-doubles don't lead to wins..

Triple doubles don't lead to wins, period. And they never have. Folk have just been conditioned to believe they do, because the box score is all they've ever basically known. Sports fans suffer from neophobia more than any other rec-group.

 

[onelastdeath]

The funny thing is, apart from the odd post about his shot-selection (which I've criticized him for in the past), my main criticism is actually directed towards those who believe his play has been great this season because he's averaging a triple double, and/or the team is only winning when he gets a triple double. His play has been GREAT this season, there's no denying that, but it isn't because he's averaging a triple double, same applies to the team winning too. By saying he's playing great this season because he's averaging a triple double, is basically undervaluing how great his play has actually been. Folk have been brainwashed by the traditional box score, that not only do they drown in xenophobia when other stats (that are more reflective of impact) are brought to the table, but they view the game almost entirely from what goes on in the box score. Ignoring all context and activity during a game in favor of a minimal amount of surface numbers that have little to no resemblance of actual impact.

It's even more funny when those same people say "advanced stats" have ruined the game, when the numbers they use are the ones that have actually ruined it.

But hey, sports fans are content with being in a dumbed-down state, rather than discussing what's actually going on.

Advanced stats haven't ruined the game. Advanced stats have ruined casual sports talk.

No one gives a fukk about all those goddamn numbers breh.

Keep it simple.

Assists. Rebounds. Points. Blocks. Steals. Free throw percentage. Field Goal Percentage. And you know what, if you must? Throw in some PER.

THats it tho. All that other shyt is irrelevant and will always be irrelevant. I don't give a shyt about all those dumb ass ESPN stats created by people who never played the game.

He's averaging a triple double. And they are 25-7 when he gets a triple double. That's all that matters.

What he's doing is impressive. And will likely not be seen again for some time.

It's that simple.

 

[onelastdeath]

When Westbrick take his team to 55+ wins by himself, we'll talk.

Name a player who took a team to 55+ wins by himself.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Advanced stats haven't ruined the game. Advanced stats have ruined casual sports talk.

No one gives a fukk about all those goddamn numbers breh.

Keep it simple.

Assists. Rebounds. Points. Blocks. Steals. Free throw percentage. Field Goal Percentage. And you know what, if you must? Throw in some PER.

THats it tho. All that other shyt is irrelevant and will always be irrelevant. I don't give a shyt about all those dumb ass ESPN stats created by people who never played the game.

He's averaging a triple double. And they are 25-7 when he gets a triple double. That's all that matters.

What he's doing is impressive. And will likely not be seen again for some time.

It's that simple.

Your mindset is actually what's ruined "sports talk". The fact you think the box score can explain everything that goes on in a basketball game is .

 

[onelastdeath]

Your mindset is actually what's ruined "sports talk". The fact you think the box score can explain everything that goes in a basketball game is .

Who says it explains everything? It explains everything that I want to know. I don't have this insatiable desire to understand everything about basketball. For one, its not my job. Secondly It's entertainment.

I don't want to go to basketball games, and worry about numbers, or where everyone should be.

I don't want to see stats that say why Kobe is not money from mid range. In my mind, Kobe is money from mid range and that's a part of what makes sports great. The illusions, the myths, the false truths. Even if he's not money from mid range, he's money to me

Watching basketball from your eyes, eyes that have to understand everything, and break everything down to a science when it should be appreciated as an art form, has to be MISERABLE. And I want no parts of the advanced stats crew. Keep that.

I'll stay over here with the dummies who just care about the box score. All you advanced acronym agents can over there and watch your sports with a pen, pad and calculator instead of a cold one and a sandwich.

Thank you.

 

[Suiken]

Name a player who took a team to 55+ wins by himself.

Lebron James
Durant without Westbrick led the thunder to a 59 win season.
Duncan back when Ginobili and Parker were still role players.
Dirk Nowitzki


Even if you give Westbrick a complimentary star, he's just gonna waste it as he pounds the ball most of the time.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They win 75% of their games when he gets a triple double. It's that simple buddy. Greatest season since the big o, after losing a league MVP

Last year Curry won 95% of games where he sat the last six minutes of the fourth. Does that mean sitting the last six minutes of the fourth is what makes the Warriors win?

I already explained how wins lead to Russ's triple-doubles, his triple-doubles don't lead to wins. You haven't even tried to counter that argument because it hadn't penetrated your skull yet.

Try to answer this instead. If triple-doubles lead to wins, then what is stopping Russ from getting triple-doubles in the losses? Why doesn't he just get 10 uncontested rebounds every game and pass for 10 assists instead of taking 25-30 shots, if doing so clearly will lead to more wins? What is stopping him?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

In my mind, Kobe is money from mid range and that's a part of what makes sports great. The illusions, the myths, the false truths. Even if he's not money from mid range, he's money to me .

Dawg, I ain't got no problem with you believing fake shyt if you know it fake. But you da one posting four-paragraph defenses on an Internet message board right now. You want to sit in front a TV with your beer and believe bullshyt like, "Johnny Football is terrific!" like the other narrative-driven sheep, go ahead. But you wanna come over and argue your myths and narratives on the internet, you gonna lose to people who are coming with facts.

And I LOVE the game. As someone who used to coach, I love shyt that I can tell really helps a team win, rather than the hero-ball and grandstanding and stat myths that drive fan narratives. It's a different appreciation.

 

[THE MACHINE]

26-6 when he has a triple double but they call him a stat padder.

MVP and I'm not open to further questioning

 

[onelastdeath]

Dawg, I ain't got no problem with you believing fake shyt if you know it fake. But you da one posting four-paragraph defenses on an Internet message board right now. You want to sit in front a TV with your beer and believe bullshyt like, "Johnny Football is terrific!" like the other narrative-driven sheep, go ahead. But you wanna come over and argue your myths and narratives on the internet, you gonna lose to people who are coming with facts.

And I LOVE the game. As someone who used to coach, I love shyt that I can tell really helps a team win, rather than the hero-ball and grandstanding and stat myths that drive fan narratives. It's a different appreciation.

Oh please, I don't watch media, or believe narratives. I just follow my eyes. I just had a discussion in the Knicks thread about how much I hate media narratives.

Doesn't change the fact that advanced stats are POINTLESS. Or the fact that there are "stats" for everything. Or that most important fact that you can get a number to say anything you want.

Enjoy yourself though.

 

[Tide Run This]

fukk that nikka

 

[boxfullofjoel]

This is the career winning percentage of players with triple doubles and without

Westbrook 86% and 61%
Magic 82% and 74%
Lebron 80% and 67%
Michael Jordan - 75% and 65% o
Kidd 71% and 58%

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This is the career winning percentage of players with triple doubles and without

Westbrook 86% and 61%
Magic 82% and 74%
Lebron 80% and 67%
Michael Jordan - 75% and 65% o
Kidd 71% and 58%

You win games when the other team misses shots and you make shots.

If the other team is missing their shots, it's easy for you to get rebounds.

If your team is making shots, it's easy for you to get assists.


Can you fools NOT fit that information into your head yet?

Westbrook gets his triple-doubles BECAUSE his teammates are making shots and the other team is missing shots, NOT because of the rebounds and assists he happens to get as a side-effect of that.

No one has explained to me yet - WHAT is Westbrook doing in his wins to get triple-doubles that he's failing to do in his losses? And why isn't he doing that in his losses then?