Westbrook : Most overrated modern PG?

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"The thunder lose when russ pads his stats":damn:

But the thunder win 80% of their games when he gets a triple double:dahell:

Can you point to me these supposed games where Westbrook isn't padding his stats? :usure:

I already explained this several times, and the last dummy who said it couldn't even come up with a single counterargument yet dapped you anyway. :mjlol:
 

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Can you point to me these supposed games where Westbrook isn't padding his stats? :usure:

I already explained this several times, and the last dummy who said it couldn't even come up with a single counterargument yet dapped you anyway. :mjlol:
Thats your job as the hater.

The thunder have an 80% winning average when he gets a triple double so your argument is false
 

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Thats your job as the hater.

The thunder have an 80% winning average when he gets a triple double so your argument is false

Maybe I need to make the explanation easier for some people in the audience.

"My baseball coach told me that I shouldn't try to hit a home run on every swing. However, when I hit 3 home runs in a game, we win 80% of the time. Therefore, I should obviously be trying to hit a home run on every swing. Even though in most of the other games I go 0-5 and we lose despite having a talented team."

or how about an even easier one:

"The Warriors are 14-2 this year when Stephen Curry plays less than 30 minutes. They were 16-2 last year when Stephen Curry played less than 30 minutes. [Those are actual stats.] Therefore, the Warriors should be playing Curry less than 30 minutes every game!"

That's how stupid logic sounds when you don't understand cause and effect.

Do you understand the problem with your logic yet, or do I need to go even slower?



Edit: Wait, here's the best one so far.

The Warriors have won 88% of their games this year when Draymond scores at least 15 points. And they have won 100% of their games when Draymond takes at least 16 shots!

Obviously, the Warriors need to be feeding Draymond all game!
 
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Maybe I need to make the explanation easier for some people in the audience.

"My baseball coach told me that I shouldn't try to hit a home run on every swing. However, when I hit 3 home runs in a game, we win 80% of the time. Therefore, I should obviously be trying to hit a home run on every swing. Even though in most of the other games I go 0-5 and we lose despite having a talented team."

or how about an even easier one:

"The Warriors are 14-2 this year when Stephen Curry plays less than 30 minutes. They were 16-2 last year when Stephen Curry played less than 30 minutes. [Those are actual stats.] Therefore, the Warriors should be playing Curry less than 30 minutes every game!"

That's how stupid logic sounds when you don't understand cause and effect.

Do you understand the problem with your logic yet, or do I need to go even slower?



Edit: Wait, here's the best one so far.

The Warriors have won 88% of their games this year when Draymond scores at least 15 points. And they have won 100% of their games when Draymond takes at least 16 shots!

Obviously, the Warriors need to be feeding Draymond all game!
Breh u are a dumbass.

The first example is a made up stat about baseball:russ:

By your logic him getting a triple double SHOULD lead to a loss, yet it doesn't. U can create a narrative for whatever stats but the FACT remains they win more when he gets triple doubles.:yeshrug:
 

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I don’t give a fukk what NOBODY say a nikka that AVERAGES a triple double for an entire season aint overrated.


John Wall in my opinion is overrated.
John Wall is not overrated, he legit carries those nikkas on the team and make them better (Beal was struggling hard asf without Wall)
 

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He was a smart player who understood the game, but his numbers and perceived ability were mad inflated because he got to set up Karl Malone for 15 years and he ran in a system that looked different than what everyone else was running.

When the playoffs hit, the fact that Stockton couldn't take over the game offensively was exposed. And once other teams figured out the pick-and-roll over the course of a 7-game series, the Jazz were usually toast.

Stockton didn't win a single 7-game series until he turned 29...and that was against the Sonics, whose leading scorer was Ricky Pierce. He only did it one more time before he was 33....and that was the 1994 Nuggets whose leading scorer was LaPhonso Ellis. That's it. He was at an age that most players retire and he still hadn't beat one decent team in the playoffs, and that's with Karl Malone and another 20ppg scorer next to him the whole time?

This wasn't a CP3 situation where he was surrounded by mediocre talent or got hit by injury issues. He always had a healthy HOF sidekick (Karl Malone), the greatest PF of his era, and a great 2nd scorer (Jeff Malone then Jeff Hornacek) and a HOF coach (Jerry Sloan) and he even got nearly a decade of one of the top rim-protectors in the NBA too (Mark Eaton). And a lot of his career was in an era where the talent just wasn't as strong as it was today. So why are the Jazz, with two potential GOATs at their position and solid talent four deep, getting swept by the Warriors in the first round?

In 1996-1998 the Jazz finally won some games, but that was with Malone leading the way and Hornacek playing well. Stockton was the #3 scorer in an era where most teams only had 1 star. And he still never closed the deal even though Malone was balling out on both ends.

In a 19-year career, you know how many times Stockton averaged over 20ppg in a playoff series? Twice. Once in 1989 when the Warriors put Winston Garland on him and still swept the Jazz in three games. And once in 1997 when the Rockets defended him with Matt Maloney, who didn't even belong in the NBA. That's it. Twice in 19 years.

Also, the little guy was the dirtiest guard in the NBA, maybe ever. If he didn't play in Utah and didn't project a certain "image", he wouldn't have gotten away with half the stuff he did.

I can't take a player who couldn't take over scoring, who wouldn't be able to defend today's point guards, who had to play dirty to keep an edge, and who almost never won games despite being surrounded by talent, and call him a GOAT at his position. I see people naming Stockton as a top-3 all-time at his position. Sorry, but there's at least ten guys I'm taking in their prime before I'd take him.
Those Jazz teams are the most overrated teams in recent nba history.
 

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"The thunder lose when russ pads his stats":damn:

But the thunder win 80% of their games when he gets a triple double:dahell:
Correlation/Causation, dog.

He ALWAYS goes for a triple double. Every game. So of course most of their wins are the ones where he's successful. But it's still a detriment and they'd probably be better than the bottom half of the playoff seeding if he played a less stat-oriented game.

That's like saying 90% of the Cavs wins come when LeBron scores 27 points. Or most Warriors wins come when Steph hits 4 threes. Duh, that's how they play.
 

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Correlation/Causation, dog.

He ALWAYS goes for a triple double. Every game. So of course most of their wins are the ones where he's successful. But it's still a detriment and they'd probably be better than the bottom half of the playoff seeding if he played a less stat-oriented game.

That's like saying 90% of the Cavs wins come when LeBron scores 27 points. Or most Warriors wins come when Steph hits 4 threes. Duh, that's how they play.
I know what cause/correlation is breh.

The reason they aint at the top half is because of Paul George's reluctance to drive and the fact that melo is practically useless. These nikkas have blown 2 games by missing game clinching free throws in just the last week.

The team defense has fallen off a cliff since robersons injury. You can't blame their playoff positioning on westbrook's aggressiveness.:yeshrug:
 

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only problem i have with westbrook is this fukker thinks hes Kobe and Jordan at the same damn time. Shooting 29% from 3 but with no fukkin hesitation you can bet hes pulling up with the game on the line :beli:
 
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