What 2Pac did to Stretch was some...

[IVS]

It wasn't like he got mad at Stretch or blamed him for anything right after the shots went of...it's after he sat back, peeped the set up and his behavior afterward. I never got the impression that Pac wanted Stretch to jump in front of bullets, just that his behavior AFTER the fact was suspect to the point where a review of the situation made Pac feel like he was in on the set up in hindsight.

And while Stretch died a year later it wasn't because of Pac or anything Pac said as far as I know. If anything his "new friends wanting him dead" and the day it happened kinda makes the shyt look even more sketchy.

Exactly! People act like Pac crazy. If you coming to rob a group of dudes, you really running up on lil ass Pac first, or you smacking Stretch with the hammer and letting nukkas know y'all mean business and making sure his big ass dont overpower anybody. The shyt do seem like a setup when you think about it.

 

[Bigsuk]

my main issue with duke - he shytted on the nikkaz that cared for him the most

just watch big stretch save duke from potentially exposing himself to da media
sadly, several hours later - duke's mad stretch who couldn't do the same ; unfortunately this time, it's loaded guns instead of microphones.... i swear, duke had some major mental issues

but he won in the after life - cause to many he could do no wrong

it's due to pac been a very articule and amazing talker with a ton of passion and charisma that has everyone believing he did no wrong or that everything was justified.... Like I said n all say again pacs an amazing artist was gifted as hell .. But off wax and some of the drama n beefs n n the way he handled certain shyt were not justified at all ....

 

[Incogni' Rodney]

2pac gets shyt on for things nobody else does.. The fact is that Stretch DID drop like a "sack of potatoes". If Nas was in the same situation and one of his so called friends did that and Nas didn't fukk with him anymore because of it, would anybody be on here saying Nas is wrong? Etc. Of course not. Stretch revealed his character at that moment. It's just facts. Pac went overboard with dissing some cats the way he did but he was 100% right about Stretch. If he didn't drop to the ground, who knows if he would've got shot anyway. If they were so intent on letting off they would've done it from the jump. So don't give me that b.s

What's funny is when people criticize 2pac for not keeping it in the street, even Stretch said that in his interview in the Vibe or Source. Yet Stretch found himself in some street shyt like this robbery and all of a sudden he wasn't about that life anymore and just dropped to the ground.. lol

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

biggie was never actully homies with jack n henchman ... Tut was biggies man ... Now I don't know why tupac started beefing with tut that's never been explained how u feel about lil shawn who said pacs mouth got biggie robbed ?? that would explain why biggie wanted nothing to do with the situation ??

I need more people on this one.

Lil Shawn been in his feelings/a notorious Pac hater since Pac exposed him for crying during the Quad incident "Why is this nicca crying AND I'M



THE ONE WHO GOT SHOT?

It's funny we never heard that from any other source but this single slow dude named Lil Shawn.Funk Flex...Cease..Ed Lover

and other east coast/Pac hating IG reporters would've been mentioned it.

 

[Bigsuk]

I need more people on this one.

Lil Shawn been in his feelings/a notorious Pac hater since Pac exposed him for crying during the Quad incident "Why is this nicca crying AND I'M



THE ONE WHO GOT SHOT?

It's funny we never heard that from any other source but this single slow dude named Lil Shawn.Funk Flex...Cease..Ed Lover

and other east coast/Pac hating IG reporters would've been mentioned it.

I never said it was 100 % fact I said what if it turns out true ... If it turns out true( which only certain nikkas would know that I doubt will speak up ) then my view of the pac vs big beef complety changes

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

It wasn't like he got mad at Stretch or blamed him for anything right after the shots went of...it's after he sat back, peeped the set up and his behavior afterward. I never got the impression that Pac wanted Stretch to jump in front of bullets, just that his behavior AFTER the fact was suspect to the point where a review of the situation made Pac feel like he was in on the set up in hindsight.

And while Stretch died a year later it wasn't because of Pac or anything Pac said as far as I know. If anything his "new friends wanting him dead" and the day it happened kinda makes the shyt look even more sketchy.

Pac said himself Stretch was bigger so he should have protected him. IMO one of the few times Tupac seemed like a kid despite him always being so wise. There's an interview with Stretch sister basically saying Stretch knew to hit the floor don't shoot it out. She said it really hurt him that Pac left him like that

 

[Bigsuk]

2pac gets shyt on for things nobody else does.. The fact is that Stretch DID drop like a "sack of potatoes". If Nas was in the same situation and one of his so called friends did that and Nas didn't fukk with him anymore because of it, would anybody be on here saying Nas is wrong? Etc. Of course not. Stretch revealed his character at that moment. It's just facts. Pac went overboard with dissing some cats the way he did but he was 100% right about Stretch. If he didn't drop to the ground, who knows if he would've got shot anyway. If they were so intent on letting off they would've done it from the jump. So don't give me that b.s

What's funny is when people criticize 2pac for not keeping it in the street, even Stretch said that in his interview in the Vibe or Source. Yet Stretch found himself in some street shyt like this robbery and all of a sudden he wasn't about that life anymore and just dropped to the ground.. lol

thing is ... If pac felt that way ... Why he never say a word to stretch all the way until he was sentenced ?? him and his brother maj held pac down until pac went to jail on the sexual assault pac never uttered a word ...

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

thing is ... If pac felt that way ... Why he never say a word to stretch all the way until he was sentenced ?? him and his brother maj held pac down until pac went to jail on the sexual assault pac never uttered a word ...

When did Pac go to jail?

Wasn't it the day after the shooting?


I'm not sure.I'll have to look it up


Edit---February 14th 1995.

Like Treach said "They fukked up by giving Tupac too much time to think"


Looking back, that's a profound statement

 

[SunZoo]

What youre saying makes sense, just relaying the info Ive read..why not that same hatred for Iron Mike? He told him Jack and Jimmy were bad news and he visits Tut in prison to this day..Why is he picking and choosing?? How can you be upset at Big and Stretch and not Tyson??

Tyson was in jail, not there in the mix when he felt like he got set up.

Pac said himself Stretch was bigger so he should have protected him. IMO one of the few times Tupac seemed like a kid despite him always being so wise. There's an interview with Stretch sister basically saying Stretch knew to hit the floor don't shoot it out. She said it really hurt him that Pac left him like that

These nikkas were 'legal' but they were still kids, really. I son nikkas as old as 2pac was when all of this stuff is going on.

2pac's naivete didn't come from being a square, it came from him growing up around 'criminals' that were more like revolutionaries than thieves and gangsters that really don't care about that kinda shyt.

 

[Renzo]

biggie was never actully homies with jack n henchman ... Tut was biggies man ... Now I don't know why tupac started beefing with tut that's never been explained how u feel about lil shawn who said pacs mouth got biggie robbed ?? that would explain why biggie wanted nothing to do with the situation ??

Lil shawn was down with them dudes and most them dudes be it puffy, henchmen are still lying to this day. He mad he got shyt on, i saw the same interview he was over blowing his importance. Everybody there that night knows what happened. Biggie saw how stretch and Pac got laid down and didnt want to end up that same way. Anyone using common sense can see what happened.

 

[Renzo]

stretch wasn't killed over anything related to big or pac .. he was robbing nikkas n never gave them things back so a hit was put on his head ...

Use your brain. Why would this brother out the blue just start robbing drug dealers? He was a music nikka not a stick up kid. You want us to believe he was so scared he dropped to the floor while 2Pac was being robbed and shot but then suddenly a few months later he turn into Omar from the wire and start robbing drug dealers? Wtf.

 

[CrownHeights]

Flipped on stretch but never said shyt to Mike Tyson who grew up with them n still cool with them nikkas to this day.

Pac and Tyson were cool breh. In fact, the night Pac died they were supposed to hang out in Suge's club. Please know the facts before you speak

Tyson even said him and Pac were going to start some kind of youth program in NY and La after that fight in Vegas.

 

[Afromaticz]

Flipped on stretch but never said shyt to Mike Tyson who grew up with them n still cool with them nikkas to this day.

Thats stupid...Tyson and Pac was homies but Stretch was Pacs brother..them two was super close

 

[CrownHeights]

Pac did not get Stretch killed, it might look a certain way because of when it happened but to me that just kinda confirms that some funny shyt had been going on from the jump.

Wasn't it the same dude that got Stretch killed the same dude that put that bag on 50s head?

 

[African Peasant]

I got alot of love for Pac.........the feminine energy was the predominant force in his life.....creativity, compassion, manic expressiveness....... all of the female energy....which also made him gravitate towards strong alpha type males i.e all the hustlers and killers he got involved with. not even saying Pac was gay but its very clear he was basically a female in a males body, which is why he stirred up so much trouble in his short life.

Interesting analysis. I'm not saying it's true, but it's interesting.