never heard of that will check that out. Ive been lurking bhw for like 4+ years now, havent really put a single idea into use 
(other than a couple ebay/dropshipping jv's). I didnt start posting until december 2012. In your opinion are the VIP's of either sites worth it?
bestblackhatforum
don't feel bad, breh. I been messing around with this stuff for the same amount of time. 4 or 5 years. I know how to build sites, do SEO, build landing pages, I got Scrapebox, Market Samurai.... STILL haven't done anything with any of it. 
It's like you get more used to stealing courses than doing anything with them. we need another Affiliate Marketing/Blackhat private support group.
I earned VIP at bestblackhatforum, got VIP at CPAFix and was a mod at this other blackhat forum.
you ain't missing much. What I've discovered is that we keep looking at these shares and courses trying to find a way to turn lead into gold. An easier way. Like we're missing somthing. Cause all these courses seem like they be saying the same shyt.
Thing is... all the big names say the same shyt in their $500-$15,000 courses cause it's what works and it always has.
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you can earn VIP, I thought you had to pay for it
you still know a hell of alot more than me. I dont even finish the tutorials/courses. The thing with the affiliate/blackhat group was it got stale, it was like a whole ton of initial excitement and interest and nikkas collabing on this and that, then that fizzled out after like a week
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politics, man. 
I dodn't mean for this thread to go there. Kinda glad it did.
it was the same allure, you know? Easy money. Work from wherever. Be a thousandaire.
I have no doubt that IrishFury is DOING it.
But free traffic is slow and tedious. Paid traffic costs money. And it kills your spirit a little bit when you hear Amazon's pay scale or how someone makes an extra g a month by uploading gifs.
Here's another roadblock. "It's costs MONEY to make MONEY!? I'm here to MAKE MONEY!
But it's like drugs and buy low/sell high. It's easy to trade time for pennies. It's what we've been trained to do since we first started waking up and going to school and getting off at three pm. Except then, it's grades. But even then you may feel like you're wasting your time. Real money is made by making your money work. You can't do that without investing money.
I'm thinking about restarting the group and doing it the right way. With different threads for building sites and tutorials, landing pages and PPC and all. Shares and courses.
That way I can motivate myself by doing and anyone that's interested can learn and implement with me.
Hell, I can link you to this motivational essay of a post I made at BHW like a year ago that still gets reps til this very day. But my walk ain't really matching my talk. I'm kinda ashamed of that.
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at this lying ass nikka..always thinking he is better than everyone
