What are your personal thoughts about Jesus Christ?

Johnny Kilroy

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suicide most times comes from some sort of mental illness

most folks even though going through life's strife are not at that level of mental illness

nowhere did i paint this extreme picture of a world without positivity

i simply questioned an all knowing all powerful creator creating an existence with pointless suffering all throughout

i know you don't have the answer

but it won't stop you from arguing instead of simply admitting the fact you can't make sense out of that either

you don't have to even reply it's a wrap

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If suffering is pointless then so is joy. In essence, most things in life seem pointless. But they're not. The point of them is to distract you to test your worth. We all have a responsibility to take care of this Earth and every creature on it. The only thing that really matters in life is HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER. Everything else is an opportunity for you to do right, nothing more, nothing less.

You're hungry? Are you going to work hard or rob and steal? Someone did you wrong? Are you going to forgive or seek vengeance? Or maybe someone brought good your way (like I'm doing now!). Are you going to appreciate it or be ungrateful?

I don't need to make sense of it because I'm not the one who's confused and without answers. :heh:
 

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If suffering is pointless then so is joy. In essence, most things in life seem pointless. But they're not. The point of them is to distract you to test your worth. We all have a responsibility to take care of this Earth and every creature on it. The only thing that really matters in life is HOW WE TREAT EACH OTHER. Everything else is an opportunity for you to do right, nothing more, nothing less.

You're hungry? Are you going to work hard or rob and steal? Someone did you wrong? Are you going to forgive or seek vengeance? Or maybe someone brought good your way (like I'm doing now!). Are you going to appreciate it or be ungrateful?

I don't need to make sense of it because I'm not the one who's confused and without answers. :heh:
not questioning the value of love & righteous character

to choose for the path to paradise to be so treacherous & to create souls knowingly destined for torment is unnecessary

to be able to do any & all things but to choose the most convoluted path makes no sense

the sensible thing would have been to make it all perfect from the beginning

you asking humans to care for this world & care for one another yet how much of this world could have used the creators care desperately¿

as i said we can leave it here because you have no answers & no proof

i am not asking anyone to abandon their faith at the same time you got to understand those who have their doubts

the claims religions make don't stand on anything we can test & have solid confidence in

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not questioning the value of love & righteous character

to choose for the path to paradise to be so treacherous & to create souls knowingly destined for torment is unnecessary

to be able to do any & all things but to choose the most convoluted path makes no sense

the sensible thing would have been to make it all perfect from the beginning

you asking humans to care for this world & care for one another yet how much of this world could have used the creators care desperately¿

as i said we can leave it here because you have no answers & no proof

i am not asking anyone to abandon their faith at the same time you got to understand those who have their doubts

the claims religions make don't stand on anything we can test & have solid confidence in

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Breh I'm not even Christian so this isn't about "my faith." :yeshrug:

I'm simply pointing out HUGE flaws in your logic.

Without the perception of bad there is no good and vice versa. This is fact. Rich kids don't know they're rich until they meet poor kids. Poor kids don't know they're poor until they meet rich kids.

If everything was "perfect" as you say there would be no joy or suffering. You need both to have either.

Is 100 miles a long distance? Well that depends on the means of travel and maybe how far the person has traveled already? Last 100 miles of a 1,000 mile trip or first 100 miles of a 101 mile trip? Perception is everything.
 

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Breh I'm not even Christian so this isn't about "my faith." :yeshrug:

I'm simply pointing out HUGE flaws in your logic.

Without the perception of bad there is no good and vice versa. This is fact. Rich kids don't know they're rich until they meet poor kids. Poor kids don't know they're poor until they meet rich kids.

If everything was "perfect" as you say there would be no joy or suffering. You need both to have either.

Is 100 miles a long distance? Well that depends on the means of travel and maybe how far the person has traveled already? Last 100 miles of a 1,000 mile trip or first 100 miles of a 101 mile trip? Perception is everything.
i don't know if you've ever been through anything life threatening

or have seen true suffering

but it's disrespectful to say it's just a matter of perception

can you point out the flaws in your own logic¿

so if it all leads to paradise or heaven how does that work¿

when paradise is to exist in pure joy without any contrast

it's as much proof behind jesus as described in scripture as any other myth or fairytale

for real let's just leave it here

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i don't know if you've ever been through anything life threatening

or have seen true suffering

but it's disrespectful to say it's just a matter of perception

can you point out the flaws in your own logic¿

so if it all leads to paradise or heaven how does that work¿

when paradise is to exist in pure joy without any contrast

it's as much proof behind jesus as described in scripture as any other myth or fairytale

for real let's just leave it here

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My g I've had bullets whiz past my head. Is that life threatening enough?

And I'm still alive, what a BLESSING!

You just soft is all I take from this. :yeshrug:

"Bad" things happen but after rain comes sunshine. You seem like the type to cry in the sun because your sneakers got wet instead of enjoying the damn sun. :heh:
 

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My g I've had bullets whiz past my head. Is that life threatening enough?

And I'm still alive, what a BLESSING!

You just soft is all I take from this. :yeshrug:

"Bad" things happen but after rain comes sunshine. You seem like the type to cry in the sun because your sneakers got wet instead of enjoying the damn sun. :heh:
i said nothing of how i handle life's pain

you take it to uninformed insults because as i said no one on either side knows the answers

folks turn childish over these questions it's a joke

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i said nothing of how i handle life's pain

you take it to uninformed insults because as i said no one on either side knows the answers

folks turn childish over these questions it's a joke

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I'm simply trying to understand your point of view.

Some people see rain and are thankful they have an umbrella. Some people see then sun shining and complain it's too bright.

I just realize the type of person I'm dealing with. If you feel insulted by this observation it only further proves it. :yehsrug:

Again... perception.
 

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I'm simply trying to understand your point of view.

Some people see rain and are thankful they have an umbrella. Some people see then sun shining and complain it's too bright.

I just realize the type of person I'm dealing with. If you feel insulted by this observation it only further proves it. :yehsrug:

Again... perception.
you are not trying to understand my view

you are trying to win an argument where the was no need for one

being positive as possible in a bad situation is admirable & even advisable to a point

doesn't change the futility or pointlessness of suffering

not talking about little insignificant things blown out of proportion talking about monumental struggles

i can be in a great space in life & still have empathy for the countless individuals living through varying forms of inescapable hell

i can still ask for an explanation

& when you don't have the explanation it's much better to simply admit to that than to take it to some low brow petty shyte as believers usually do when questioned

done replying

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you are not trying to understand my view

you are trying to win an argument where the was no need for one

being positive as possible in a bad situation is admirable & even advisable to a point

doesn't change the futility or pointlessness of suffering

not talking about little insignificant things blown out of proportion talking about monumental struggles

i can be in a great space in life & still have empathy for the countless individuals living through varying forms of inescapable hell

i can still ask for an explanation

& when you don't have the explanation it's much better to simply admit to that than to take it to some low brow petty shyte as believers usually do when questioned

done replying

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I understand your view perfectly well. What I'm trying to teach you is that there are ALWAYS 2 views. You seem to only cling to the negative side of things.

I'll take it back to my moon example. Is it a crescent moon or a full moon? In reality it's both.

All these things you wanna bytch about, are they good or bad? Both. You're the one putting caps on possibilities.

I lost my job last year. I coulda hung my head. But instead, I chose to make it positive. I used that to motivate me to start my own business and economic reform in my own life.

So was getting fired bad? I could see the answer being yes. But I can also see the answer being no. So with 2 possible answers, I now have to make a choice.

You're faced with similar choices all day every day. How you choose to perceive things is on you and your upbringing. But don't blame anyone else for YOUR perception. :ufdup:
 

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Rumors of wars and then this covid shyt should confirm he's well on his way. Right after our false savior fixes this shyt and gives us a false sense of peace. Probably a gay leader that believes in all equality like Nero. FYI, this Covid shyt ain't going nowhere for at least 2 years.
 

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Oh yea, the descendants of Israel do not know who they are. He will specifically choose them through dreams and they will prophesy and be martyrs then he'll come.......well...technically he's already here. Some of them already met him and don't know.
 
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