What "boycotting hiphop" WOULD and WOULDN'T do

[PhonZhi]

To answer your question: Black people are becoming more unified due to massive distrust in other groups.

Bingo, this mistrust in other groups is also causing an increase in our OWN racial pride and our love for ourselves and also each other, as I previously stated:

It would mean that blacks experienced an increase in racial pride. An increase in love for oneself and each other.

Now WTF does banking have to do with my question or even this topic?

I asked the question about banking to illustrate how we've been "sleep" as a people. Us putting our $$$ into black owned banks should have BEEEEEEN happening. Do you agree? We should have been having the mindset of "black first" and supporting black owned businesses. Us putting our $$$ into black owned banks should NOT be a new phenomenon. The reason why this is starting to happen now is that we are "waking up" as a people and experiencing an increase in our own racial pride.

I made a topic about "boycotting hip hop" and you are going left field

I had to go left field to acknowledge how the only way for "change" to happen for blacks in this country is via a massive shift in OUR OWN mentality and an increase in our own racial pride.

Tying all of this together, the only way for a massive boycott of this destructive, white-supremacist controlled music would be if black people ALREADY experienced an increased racial pride and love for each other. Music that promotes blacks killing blacks and other destructive messages would no longer be tolerated. Right now we tolerate it because we are still "sleep". We're on the way to waking up tho. Its gonna be a long, slow process. As black people wake up more and more and gain racial pride, hip-hop and its poisonous messages will be tolerated less and less.

So basicly, the entire premise of your thread is impossible without blacks FIRST experiencing an increase in our own racial pride.

As I said:

Basicly, a boycott of hiphop and its toxic messages would be a RESULT of a massive "awakening" amongst blacks.

 

[PhonZhi]

People are waking up

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/current-rap-music-is-kinda-like-the-new-slavery.452389/

 

[It is a mystery]

Tying all of this together, the only way for a massive boycott of this destructive, white-supremacist controlled music would be if black people ALREADY experienced an increased racial pride and love for each other. Music that promotes blacks killing blacks and other destructive messages would no longer be tolerated. Right now we tolerate it because we are still "sleep". We're on the way to waking up tho. Its gonna be a long, slow process. As black people wake up more and more and gain racial pride, hip-hop and its poisonous messages will be tolerated less and less.

So basicly, the entire premise of your thread is impossible without blacks FIRST experiencing an increase in our own racial pride.

As I said:

Say we all come together and stop listening to hip hop. Hip hop artists will stop thriving. Will it actually improve the areas that they are from or stop people in those areas from feeling like they have to do dirt? Artists are only messengers. All they do is say what is going on. Silencing them won't make things better. It may even make things worse. What would people like 21 Savage or Cheif Keef if they weren't rapping? Is boycotting his music going to make O Block any better?

 

[Taadow]

Who controls hip-hop tho. That's the issue. We need to gain back control of it. Not boycott and do away with it. Hiphop is one our greatest creations but we no longer control it.

When did you have control of hip-hop?
You create hip-hop?

 

[Taadow]

Say we all come together and stop listening to hip hop. Hip hop artists will stop thriving.

Hip-hop artists have already stopped thriving.

They have to do shows to eat. That's why they have to be trend hoppers now.
They've been "boycotted" for years - fewer and fewer are purposely not buying their music. That's a boycott.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

The resurrection of mainstream r&b.

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Im down to boycott it. at least the negative stuff. Lemme know.

 

[Barnett114]

Nothing

1/3 of black adults are unemployed in Chicago

My city has a gang culture that stretches back to the 1950s

But yeah boycotting music you don't like will solve the socioeconomic problems and institutionalized racism

 

[Peruvian Connect]

I keep hearing about boycotting hiphop on TLR so I thought about what would actually do. The results were interesting

What boycotting hiphop wouldn't do:

• Stop violence in impoverished areas because it was there before and would continue to happen
• Stop trapping in impoverished areas because it was there before and would continue to happen
• Change the perception of black people in the Americas because it was there before and would continue to happen
• Help the people in worse off areas by providing them with better schooling, better career projections, better options for extra-curricular activities, more opportunities to travel and learn of the customs of the world, etc.

What boycotting hiphop WOULD do

• Stop people from talking about the stuff they see around them and projecting messages to the public about how fukked up some areas are
• Remove a voice from people who want to deliver a message for any reason (artistic expression, get something off their mind, prove a point, etc.)
• Stop middle class people from learning of new drugs like molly
• Stop people in lower income brackets from giving a shyt about high end fashion although they still might anyways
• Stop people from putting money into black people (rappers) pockets to ultimately place it elsewhere
• Give people from impoverished areas even LESS options, forcing them to trap even MORE

Sounds good to me, who wants to sign up?

Spoiler

The only way to stop crime is to legalize all crime and have anarchy. That's the only way crime stops.

 

[PhonZhi]

Say we all come together and stop listening to hip hop. Hip hop artists will stop thriving. Will it actually improve the areas that they are from or stop people in those areas from feeling like they have to do dirt? Artists are only messengers. All they do is say what is going on. Silencing them won't make things better. It may even make things worse. What would people like 21 Savage or Cheif Keef if they weren't rapping? Is boycotting his music going to make O Block any better?

Can you post any songs of Chief Keef or 21 Savage shedding light on the root cause of these issues?: systemic oppression. Since they are the messengers and all and reporting what's going on. Do they have any songs promoting group economics, unity, etc?

Any songs revealing WHY people in these communities are in the position that they are in?

 

[PhonZhi]

When did you have control of hip-hop?
You create hip-hop?

Black people had control before "they" came in and corporatized the art form and proceeded to use the genre for THEIR benefit. If you don't believe in a "they" and think that "they" are a figment of my imagination then we might as well end this now.

 

[Taadow]

Black people had control before "they" came in and corporatized the art form and proceeded to use the genre for THEIR benefit. If you don't believe in a "they" and think that "they" are a figment of my imagination then we might as well end this now.

Black people didn't have control - the rappers' did.

There's no rap industry without the rap music. Daz tried to tell y'all in 2001 when he tried to get artists to unionize.
"they can't do anything without the music..."

Rappers lowkey still control the music. They can not sell it out to "they"
and find their own way to use it however they want.

 

[PhonZhi]

Black people didn't have control - the rappers' did.

There's no rap industry without the rap music. Daz tried to tell y'all in 2001 when he tried to get artists to unionize.
"they can't do anything without the music..."

Rappers lowkey still control the music. They can not sell it out to "they"
and find their own way to use it however they want.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I don't want to "YouTube" you to death but I can post more than a few vids of people in the industry explaining how the execs (mainly white/Jewish of course) literally manipulate the content. How certain songs have been left off records. How artists like Uncle Luke or Young Buck wanted to go in a more positive direction but the big wigs told them no.

Rappers dont own shyt. They are assembly line puppets willing to spew mental poison to their own people to get out the hood, and that's why its so effective. Tell me what 18 year old would turn down millions to (unknowingly) perpetuate the worse stereotypes of his race to the world?

If he would, there are millions more right behind him that would be more than willing to.

 

[Mowgli]

HIphop needs to die commercially.

 

[Taadow]

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. I don't want to "YouTube" you to death but I can post more than a few vids of people in the industry explaining how the execs (mainly white/Jewish of course) literally manipulate the content. How certain songs have been left off records. How artists like Uncle Luke or Young Buck wanted to go in a more positive direction but the big wigs told them no.

No need - i'm aware of this....because rappers have said this themselves on their songs. I listen to lyrics.

This is only the case when they're signed to a record label.
If you're not on a label, you don't have to deal with execs.

Rappers dont own shyt.

False. If they own their publishing, they own their music.

If you're independent, you own your music.

Where the problem is is that so many of them (especially the younger ones) don't realize this until it's too late
and they've already chained themselves to a machine.

They are assembly line puppets willing to spew mental poison to their own people to get out the hood, and that's why its so effective. Tell me what 18 year old would turn down millions to (unknowingly) perpetuate the worse stereotypes of his race to the world?

If he would, there are millions more right behind him that would be more than willing to.

...Which is why I say that it's up to the rappers to change the current state of affairs.
Each individual one is responsible for what they use their pens/mics for.