What "boycotting hiphop" WOULD and WOULDN'T do

[Brofato]

No need - i'm aware of this....because rappers have said this themselves on their songs. I listen to lyrics.

This is only the case when they're signed to a record label.
If you're not on a label, you don't have to deal with execs.




False. If they own their publishing, they own their music.

If you're independent, you own your music.

Where the problem is is that so many of them (especially the younger ones) don't realize this until it's too late
and they've already chained themselves to a machine.



...Which is why I say that it's up to the rappers to change the current state of affairs.
Each individual one is responsible for what they use their pens/mics for.

And Young Chano is out here making it a viable option to be an independent rapper on a national and global scale and actually able to profit from it.

A lot of people might follow in these footsteps but a lot of the time they'd rather go the label route. It's hard to blame them for making a deal with the devil. Some of them are young and just starting out.

A lot of others work for years getting no recognition and think a label might help with what they think the world should hear.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

And Young Chano is out here making it a viable option to be an independent rapper on a national and global scale and actually able to profit from it.

A lot of people might follow in these footsteps but a lot of the time they'd rather go the label route. It's hard to blame them for making a deal with the devil. Some of them are young and just starting out.

A lot of others work for years getting no recognition and think a label might help with what they think the world should hear.

And some people just want a check.

 

[cheek100]

Why don't u negroes boycott walmart

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Why don't u negroes boycott walmart

for what reason?

 

[cheek100]

for what reason?

Because they suck

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

First off, a large-scale boycott of hiphop would never happen with our current mindset.

Now, If a massive, coordinated and ultimately SUCCESSFULL boycott of hiphop (and more importantly the businesses that fund corporate hiphop) DID happen, that would mean that a massive psychological shift for the better had already happened amongst blacks.

It would mean that blacks experienced an increase in racial pride. An increase in love for oneself and each other. An increase in unity amongst each other. An increased awareness in past history and the tactics used in systemic oppression (including "media propaganda" in which hip-hop falls under). An increase in knowledge of self and so forth.


It would mean that "change" is in progress and that we're no longer "sleep".

Remember, white supremacy depends on our own ignorance, division and lowered self-esteem about ourselves. A boycott of hiphop and its destructive messages would mean that a reversal in those things had already happened.









































Nice try OP

That clap back

 

[BrandonBanks]

It's so much bigger than rap. I don't get why more black men dont get that. If we're going to boycott something, we need to boycott shyt that actually matters.

Question is, are the majority of us willing to do that?

Boycotting the local Asian/Arab/Mexican spots in/near black communities draining the money out. Especially since there aren't an equal amount of black businesses, where we drain others for their wealth the same way.

If black neighborhoods were a country, we'd have the worst trade agreements in the world


That's the problem though, American nikkas think that because someone SELLS you something, they "like" you but in reality, thats called BUSINESS. Selling you goods for money. Doesn't mean they fukk with you like that. How many black faces you see working in that bytch? Nah, they got their brother, cousin, aunt, friend, etc working in their business, not nikkas. They're practicing group economics, like WE should be doing, but we don't.

But u still think they fukk with you just because they're selling you some wings or rice the only thing they want from you is your money

Just because someone isn't calling you a ****** to your face (well at least not in English), doesn't mean they give a fukk about you

Many will misunderstand, or just disagree with this post, and those who do, I want to answer this question. Can Ming Lei set up "China Wok" in/near black communities, with no pushback and extract wealth? Yes, happens all the time. Now ask yourself, can Lamar just as easily set up Lamar's Soul Food in Chinatown, with no pushback and actually extract wealth? If he can actually get it opened, will Asians be flocking there, giving hm their $? No

So why give them ours? Start thinking about economics. So many of us are still concerned about rap while other races are focused on shyt that really matters, group economics, resources, extracting wealth. I can choose to not listen to rap but what does that matter if our communities are still getting drained for wealth by other groups? Whether you're listening to rap, r&b, pop, etc if you no infrastructure, no economic base, what you listen to will not change that.

 

[BrandonBanks]

And I know some of you hate posts with paragraphs, but somebody had to say this shyt

 

[BrandonBanks]

Nothing

1/3 of black adults are unemployed in Chicago

My city has a gang culture that stretches back to the 1950s

But yeah boycotting music you don't like will solve the socioeconomic problems and institutionalized racism

Anytime nikkas start talking about how much of a problem rap is for black ppl economically, I'm like the crazy part is its usually cats who are old enough to know better saying it. Like 25 and up.

nikkas still playing checkers while everybody else is playing chess.

No other group of men believes/believed that a solution to the lack of ownership and wealth involves a genre of music.

I'm not saying rap is not a factor, but it's so low on the list of factors that it might as well not even be debated about. We have a long way to go and music is not near the top of the list of problems. Boycotting rap songs? What will that matter if we can't/won't even boycott the local Chinese/Korean/Arab/Mexican etc spot near our communities draining blacks for our resources?

If I boycott rap and only listen to pop, country, jazz but at the end of the day, me and a bunch of other black ppl still take our money over to Ling Ling, Akbar or Jose', does it even matter what I listen to?...

Especially when there's no semblance of such in their communities?? We aren't currently competing with them. In their areas, there aren't a bunch of black businesses making money, and if a bunch of black businesses were to set up shop in their areas, they wouldn't stay in business that long because other races wouldn't support them the way we support theirs

But nikkas still talking about music. breh, sometimes I'm just like

 

[315]

No need - i'm aware of this....because rappers have said this themselves on their songs. I listen to lyrics.

This is only the case when they're signed to a record label.
If you're not on a label, you don't have to deal with execs.




False. If they own their publishing, they own their music.

If you're independent, you own your music.

Where the problem is is that so many of them (especially the younger ones) don't realize this until it's too late
and they've already chained themselves to a machine.



...Which is why I say that it's up to the rappers to change the current state of affairs.
Each individual one is responsible for what they use their pens/mics for.

Tech n9ne been doing it his whole career.Even before the Internet.

 

[It is a mystery]

Can you post any songs of Chief Keef or 21 Savage shedding light on the root cause of these issues?: systemic oppression. Since they are the messengers and all and reporting what's going on. Do they have any songs promoting group economics, unity, etc?

Any songs revealing WHY people in these communities are in the position that they are in?

Some do outside of their music (in documentaries on youtube or interviews), some do on their albums, some don't. Either way, their music demonstrates symptoms of a greater problem. Hiding the symptom will not solve the problem, much like suppressing the symptoms of a disease wouldn't make the disease go away.

 

[PhonZhi]

It's so much bigger than rap. I don't get why more black men dont get that. If we're going to boycott something, we need to boycott shyt that actually matters.

Question is, are the majority of us willing to do that?

Boycotting the local Asian/Arab/Mexican spots in/near black communities draining the money out. Especially since there aren't an equal amount of black businesses, where we drain others for their wealth the same way.

If black neighborhoods were a country, we'd have the worst trade agreements in the world


That's the problem though, American nikkas think that because someone SELLS you something, they "like" you but in reality, thats called BUSINESS. Selling you goods for money. Doesn't mean they fukk with you like that. How many black faces you see working in that bytch? Nah, they got their brother, cousin, aunt, friend, etc working in their business, not nikkas. They're practicing group economics, like WE should be doing, but we don't.

But u still think they fukk with you just because they're selling you some wings or rice the only thing they want from you is your money

Just because someone isn't calling you a ****** to your face (well at least not in English), doesn't mean they give a fukk about you

Many will misunderstand, or just disagree with this post, and those who do, I want to answer this question. Can Ming Lei set up "China Wok" in/near black communities, with no pushback and extract wealth? Yes, happens all the time. Now ask yourself, can Lamar just as easily set up Lamar's Soul Food in Chinatown, with no pushback and actually extract wealth? If he can actually get it opened, will Asians be flocking there, giving hm their $? No

So why give them ours? Start thinking about economics. So many of us are still concerned about rap while other races are focused on shyt that really matters, group economics, resources, extracting wealth. I can choose to not listen to rap but what does that matter if our communities are still getting drained for wealth by other groups? Whether you're listening to rap, r&b, pop, etc if you no infrastructure, no economic base, what you listen to will not change that.

Y'all still dont understand

Everything you stated is on point EXCEPT your dismissal of the power and influence of hiphop culture.

Hip-hop culture teaches us to put our $$$ into white/foreign owned hands. It teaches us extreme materialism:



This is by design. White supremacy THRIVES on black people being materialistic. If rappers tried rapping about supporting black businesses I GUARANTEE that they wouldn't get the same opportunity to shine in the mainstream. These white corporations wouldn't allow that.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Nothing

1/3 of black adults are unemployed in Chicago

My city has a gang culture that stretches back to the 1950s

But yeah boycotting music you don't like will solve the socioeconomic problems and institutionalized racism

You mean yall didn't start banging becuz Keef, Fredo, and Reese talk about it in their rhymes?

 

[PhonZhi]

Some do outside of their music (in documentaries on youtube or interviews), some do on their albums, some don't. Either way, their music demonstrates symptoms of a greater problem. Hiding the symptom will not solve the problem, much like suppressing the symptoms of a disease wouldn't make the disease go away.

90% of mainstream, easily-accessible hiphop promotes and glorifies criminal/destructive behaviour. This is done purposely.

Here's a 3min vid explaining how private prison owners also have shares in the major entertainment conglomerates that push these messages:



If you don't have a problem with this then that says more about YOU. Like I said, an increase in your own racial pride as a black person will make you view this music differently.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Y'all still dont understand

Everything you stated is on point EXCEPT your dismissal of the power and influence of hiphop culture.

Hip-hop culture teaches us to put our $$$ into white/foreign owned hands. It teaches us extreme materialism:



This is by design. White supremacy THRIVES on black people being materialistic. If rappers tried rapping about supporting black businesses I GUARANTEE that they wouldn't get the same opportunity to shine in the mainstream. These white corporations wouldn't allow that.

Hip hop doesn't teach materialism. America teaches that. When people come from poverty theyre used to living paycheck to paycheck or even day to day. So when they start getting money they never dreamed they could get most people don't kno how to budget and manage money cuz they never had enough to do so.