What changes would you make to the NBA CBA?

[Kang Deezy]

They need to add roster spots so more players can be stashed in the d league

 

[triplehate]

No max contracts

rollover any unused cap room so you can offer a shyt load of money to a free agent.


So all those years of tanking with minimum salary players philly would have like 200 milly to offer KD

 

[FTBS]

What was the difference in bird rights between now and then?

I love the rest of these to a degree. Totally agree on amnesty for the length of max contracts. For the true draft system I think it would take away the incentive of teams tank as hard. As far as the idea of not being able to have back to back number 1 picks and make it so that if you move into the top 3 one year then you're disqualified from moving up the next year. Only downside it penalizes teams too heavy for winning during a weak draft but I think it would encourage teams to make more of an effort to be good year after year since they know they can't just hope to get lucky in lottery year after year.

My problem with the base rookie length deal you mentioned is that it would completely fukk players over who stay longer. They are neglected already and if teams know they get those players for a lesser amount of time and have to pay more money for them then the middle of the road players would get screwed. The star players who stayed longer would still get picked regardless but a GM would take more 1 and dones for cheaper.

I would like to see them allow HS players be allowed to be drafted but have a mandatory year in the D-League before being allowed to play in the NBA. I think that would generate interest in the D-League and promote teams focusing more attention in the D-League. Primary goal would be for every team to have their own D-League squad and have those teams mirror the NBA system each team runs so that the players come in having a base knowledge of the system they'll be coming into.

As far as max salaries, I would like to see each team have a slot to pay a max salary. But the catch would be a lower salary cap overall and regardless of what the team is paying that player it only counts against the cap for the same percentage as it does now.

So for instance just to use an easy number, I'd like to see instead of a $100 million dollar cap I'd like to see it be 80. The max slot counts for 25% of the contract regardless the number they sign for. So a player like Lebron could get paid $50 million while only counting as $20 million against the cap. Each team would have one player that they could designate for that. Every other player on the team could max out at $20 million after that. It would make stars of the league be forced to make a decision to pair with another superstar and take the current max salary or go to a team that hasn't used it's designated max slot and make a much larger salary since any team that hasn't used theirs can offer unlimited money.

There are limits now. Before you could pay a guy whatever (see Mike making more than the entire cap his last two years in CHI).

The years/salaries listed were only for the stars. Only the top pick would see that money. It gives guys an incentive to stay in school longer and develop more and it actually benefits guys that stay. If a Bron or Kobe level talent stays in school for 4 years no team is gonna overlook them. And they would come out the gate making 10 mil and be up for a big deal after one year in. It gives guys a reason to stay in school without actually forcing them. You give guys a choice. You can either come out early and make less money and have to wait longer to cash in or you can wait and then cash in out the gate.

I would be in favor of a system like baseball where you can come straight from HS and go the minors but if you go to school you gotta stay for a certain length of time (2 or 3 years) as well.

I am actually in favor of a system similar to the one you suggested if they are gonna keep max deals. The only problem is that it punishes teams that draft well. If you draft or acquire two max studs you are basically forced to part with one if only one guy can truly max out. I think slots make teams lazy and make players delusional.

 

[threattonature]

There are limits now. Before you could pay a guy whatever (see Mike making more than the entire cap his last two years in CHI).

That's right. I forgot all about that.

The years/salaries listed were only for the stars. Only the top pick would see that money. It gives guys an incentive to stay in school longer and develop more and it actually benefits guys that stay. If a Bron or Kobe level talent stays in school for 4 years no team is gonna overlook them. And they would come out the gate making 10 mil and be up for a big deal after one year in. It gives guys a reason to stay in school without actually forcing them. You give guys a choice. You can either come out early and make less money and have to wait longer to cash in or you can wait and then cash in out the gate.

I would be in favor of a system like baseball where you can come straight from HS and go the minors but if you go to school you gotta stay for a certain length of time (2 or 3 years) as well.

To me the ultimate solution would be for them to be able to be drafted and paid like pros. Cause no matter the system put in place the average kid is going to come out and go for that fast money if it's there than staying in school and risking being exposed or injury. I feel letting them be drafted early and playing in the D-league is the best solution. Maybe not full blown contracts but more of the system you proposed.

I am actually in favor of a system similar to the one you suggested if they are gonna keep max deals. The only problem is that it punishes teams that draft well. If you draft or acquire two max studs you are basically forced to part with one if only one guy can truly max out. I think slots make teams lazy and make players delusional.

If they went back to old school Bird rules it may solve the problem. The reason I like the idea that I threw out is that it would still leave teams some wiggle room to build teams around the top stars while still allowing the stars to have no limit to the salaries they can make. The downside would be it would give the large markets too much of a competitive advantage at the absolute top players as once again they could outspend their competitors. But I still think that as long as some kind of cap is in place the top players would never get proper pay. Lebron probably deserves 75-80 on his own. But if max contracts were eliminated and every other rule kept the same Cavs could have no one around him.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Why they removed players coming out of high school cause of GMs being dumb and thirsty for the next big hype outta HS is ridiculous.. some of the best players in NBA history came out of high school and some serviceable players like Jermaine Oneal as well.. majority of the hype for LeBron was cause he was coming out of high school.. College doesnt really build that hype it seems and also so far hasnt proven that players will come out more prepared for the NBA (if anything its proven to be the exact opposite )

 

[FTBS]

No max contracts

rollover any unused cap room so you can offer a shyt load of money to a free agent.


So all those years of tanking with minimum salary players philly would have like 200 milly to offer KD

So basically if you suck on purpose long enough you will be able to make a big star an offer he can't refuse?

 

[Malta]

No max contracts

Amnesty provision (Bi-annual) - Still have to pay the contract but it doesn't count against the cap, that way a bad contract doesn't cripple a team for years and truly competitive franchises would eat the money and sign another player.

HS Players - Each team gets 2 spots for HS players, if you draft them you have to keep them for the life of their rookie deal (even 2nd rounders). Undrafted HS players can still attend and play for colleges as all HS players are protected under the NBA umbrella and won't require an agent.

 

[FTBS]

That's right. I forgot all about that.


To me the ultimate solution would be for them to be able to be drafted and paid like pros. Cause no matter the system put in place the average kid is going to come out and go for that fast money if it's there than staying in school and risking being exposed or injury. I feel letting them be drafted early and playing in the D-league is the best solution. Maybe not full blown contracts but more of the system you proposed.




If they went back to old school Bird rules it may solve the problem. The reason I like the idea that I threw out is that it would still leave teams some wiggle room to build teams around the top stars while still allowing the stars to have no limit to the salaries they can make. The downside would be it would give the large markets too much of a competitive advantage at the absolute top players as once again they could outspend their competitors. But I still think that as long as some kind of cap is in place the top players would never get proper pay. Lebron probably deserves 75-80 on his own. But if max contracts were eliminated and every other rule kept the same Cavs could have no one around him.

I'm all for guys getting paid but as you said guys that stay are already marginalized. I'd like to see some sort of benefit for staying in school. I am all for giving people choices and options though.

Cleveland is way over the cap as it is. They don't have any money to get anyone of note (that isn't willing to sign for the mini MLE). So basically it would be all about drafting/trading for players before signing such a deal. But the whole system should be changed though.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I think we are going to see the end of max player contracts with Bron and CP3 heavily involved

 

[Dirty D]

No max contracts

rollover any unused cap room so you can offer a shyt load of money to a free agent.


So all those years of tanking with minimum salary players philly would have like 200 milly to offer KD

Worst idea in the thread.

I like eliminating max contracts and make these GM's actually have to budget for superstars vs stars.

More roster spots for D-Leaguers too.

Restricted free agency needs to have some kind of out for players who want to leave. Like if they sign an offer sheet and the current team matches it becomes just a 2-year deal or something like that. That at least gives the team the chance to work a trade and doesn't trap a guy like Eric Gordon in New Orleans.

 

[Primetime21]

add some incentive to win for perennial tankers. two straight years a team selects in the top 5, the third season they have to reach a "win floor", a formula generated by some analytic stat geeks, team dont reach the floor they lose the pick.

need a flex system active throughout the whole season. As long as players are going to be held out of games for reasons not relating to an injury the league needs to have flex options for national broadcast games. Too many times a marquee game is circled at the beginning of the year only for the day to come and star players are sitting out.

scrap the moratorium period in free agency and allow players to sign day 1.

 

[tremonthustler1]

add some incentive to win for perennial tankers. two straight years a team selects in the top 5, the third season they have to reach a "win floor", a formula generated by some analytic stat geeks, team dont reach the floor they lose the pick.

need a flex system active throughout the whole season. As long as players are going to be held out of games for reasons not relating to an injury the league needs to have flex options for national broadcast games. Too many times a marquee game is circled at the beginning of the year only for the day to come and star players are sitting out.

scrap the moratorium period in free agency and allow players to sign day 1.

Maybe some teams just suck. Why is this such an unbelievable concept?

A lot of these ideas just sound like y'all wanna prevent bad decisions when that's impossible.

 

[tremonthustler1]

fukk depressing salaries further

salaries would get depressed anyway with a hard cap

No one will pay anyone $35-40 mil a year and unless you're a born loser you might not take the money. If trading your pride for $$$ was a thing to do, every team could scoop a free agent