What do africans think of African Americans?

[Fandroid]

not true...Afram culture was spreading globally before there was mass medias such as records and TV that we know today. Secondly, they did this under intense undermining, segregation, extreme jim crow etc..Take something like ragtime that was global in the late 1800's/early 1900's before TV/Records





shyt was global and the hiphop/jazz/rock of it's time and before mass media

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negro spirituals were spread all over europe and in africa in the 1870s/1880's








Edmund Havel. Jubilee Singers at the Court of Queen Victoria, 1873. Fisk University Library.

This portrait commemorates the Fisk Jubilee Singers’ performance before Queen Victoria. Painted in 1873 by Edmund Havel, the queen’s court painter, it depicts, left to right (men): Benjamin Holmes, Isaac dikkerson, Thomas Rutling, Edmund Watkins; left to right (women): Mabel Lewis, Minnie Tate, Ella Sheppard, Jennie Jackson, Julia Jackson, Maggie Porter, Georgia Gordon.

Your scthick is corny breh.

who owned the record companies that AAs signed their music towards? CACS.

Did AAs invent the telescope, too?

 

[Fandroid]

Did AAs invent calypso?

 

[Fandroid]

How bout you kill me nikkayou think you could swing that?

I'll pull a bullet in your head.

Chill you not gonna discredit the US like that.

All of it comes from the blues and R and B and Jazz are big inspirations to Reggae music. Don't ever play yourself

You clowns sound no different than cacs that try to claim Egypt and everything under the sun.

 

[Fandroid]

Trinidad made the steel pan and carnival or mas. Safe to say they had shyt lit and still do Mas be crazy. Got to go out there one year.

Nah @IllmaticDelta has proof that AAs invented the ORIGINAL Carnival parade back in 1878 in NOLA.

AAs also invented jerk chicken.

AAs own everything prouced by the African diaspora.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Nah @IllmaticDelta has proof that AAs invented the ORIGINAL Carnival parade back in 1878 in NOLA.

AAs also invented jerk chicken.

AAs own everything prouced by the African diaspora.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Your scthick is corny breh.

I only post facts

who owned the record companies that AAs signed their music towards? CACS.

in the 1870s?

Did AAs invent the telescope, too?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You clowns sound no different than cacs that try to claim Egypt and everything under the sun.

nah....go find interviews with the jamaican music OG's and learn the truth.They never fronted on where their inspiration(s) came from

For a start ska

based on american shuffle/herky jerky R&B

and reggae are both played on the downbeat, american music didn't start doing that until decades later with funk.

based on soul/funk










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Im going to explain further why Reggae is the Jamaican version of Soul music w/ native Jamaicanisms mixed in and why, Reggae wouldn't exist w/o the Soul foundation. It was from Soul that Jamaica went from horn driven Ska to Vocal and bass dominated Rocksteady/Reggae.

Rocksteady, even more so the early reggae that followed, was built around the "one drop" drum beat, characterized by a heavy accent on the second and fourth beat of every bar (or the third beat if one counts in double time), played by the bass drum and the snare together. The snare drum often plays a side stick "click" rather that a full snare hit; an influence from Latin music. This differs markedly from the drumming styles in R&B and rock and roll, which put the bass drum on the first beat (the downbeat) and almost never on the second and fourth beats). Jamaican musicians sometimes refer to the second and fourth beats as the "afterbeat". All the Jamaican styles of kit drumming since ska have incorporated a mixture of influences, including African burru percussion, American jazz and R&B, and Latin rhythms. The slowing in perceived tempo that occurred with rocksteady opened the door for drummers to explore these influences more. With the advent of the drum machine and computer in the 1980s, Jamaican popular music i.e. "dancehall" began to draw on other rhythms such as Kumina and to a lesser extent, American hip-hop so that recent music from Jamaica bears little resemblance to the rhythms and beats of classic ska, rocksteady and reggae.

This slowing that occurred with rocksteady allowed bass players to explore more broken, syncopated figures, playing a counterpoint to the repetitive rhythm of the guitar and keyboards and this new style eventually largely replaced the walking patterns that had been so characteristic of many ska recordings. These new patterns fit very well with the simpler modal chord progressions often used by Jamaican players. Byron Lee was the first ska band leader to have a full-time electric bass. By 1966, the advantages of recording and performing with electric bass had meant most players made the switch to electric. A number of factors led to smaller band sizes and this in turn led to changes in the way the music was composed and arranged. The slower tempo and smaller band sizes in turn led to a much larger focus on the bass line in general, which eventually became one of the most recognizable characteristics of Jamaican music. In rocksteady, the lead guitar often doubles the bass line, in the muted picking style created by Lynn Taitt, a technique that continued on into reggae.

Smaller band sizes and slower tempos also led to a number of changes in the way horn parts were written and arranged. Whereas, in ska, the horn section had often spent much of the song playing the offbeats with the guitar and piano, in rocksteady they favored repeated rhythmic patterns or simply sitting out all together until the lead line.

Rocksteady and reggae are perhaps best thought of and notated as a half time feel, in which case one would count at twice the tempo. This would mean the guitar-piano offbeats would fall on beats 2 and 4, and the "one drop" of the snare/kick drum would fall on beat 3. This also allows transcribers to use the term "swing 8ths" to help notate hi-hat patterns, for example.

Rocksteady - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The year 1966 greatly changed Jamaican music as the rocksteady style appeared. Some have cited this as the transition from American-derived ska to native Jamaican reggae, though this is not entirely accurate. In truth, Jamaican music continued to be influenced by American soul and British pop, which by the mid-1960s was smoother, slower, and more melodic — the widely popular Motown style and thhe lush Philadelphia soul sound are examples. Jamaican musicians responded to this with their own slower, more laid-back sound, dubbed "rocksteady" for its smoothness and mellower rhythms. A few accounts claim that the intense summer heat of 1966 caused Jamaican musicians to slow down their tempos; this seems less likely than the fact that American soul was itself growing mellower and more laid-back. Though the rough, raw ska sound stayed popular (and would not fade until 1967), another strain of Jamaican pop had developed which ultimately had more influence both within Jamaica and internationally.


Rocksteady not only slowed down the tempos, but it shifted the emphasis from horns to guitar and vocals. The jumpy, syncopated beat became less pronounced and more lilting, and the resulting sound is a more relaxed version of American soul. Three prime examples of the new sound are Delroy Wilson's "Dancing Mood," The Gaylads' "Stop Making Love," and, more importantly, Desmond Dekker's "Israelites" and "007 (Shanty Town)." All these tunes, as well as others in the rocksteady style, bear much more resemblance to American soul and gospel than to the earthy, rollicking New Orleans-derived ska sound, which by 1966 was fading as a common musical idiom. Still, Jamaican artists kept responding to American and European pop and continued to adapt it to their own well-developed traditions and ideas about music.

Burnin' Vernon's Original Ska Page

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from the main orchestrator of what came to be Rocksteady from which Reggae came

Lynn Taitt orchestrates rocksteady's birth

Putting together his classic aggregation Lynn Taitt and the Jets, which was to become the epitome of rocksteady music, Taitt worked for a time with Federal Records in 1966.

The move was timely insofar as rocksteady music was concerned, as Hopeton Lewis arrived at the studio during that same year, with the hope of recording an uptempo song.

Taitt was on the verge of creating history, and uncovered the first piece of his musical genius, which he described in his own words:

"Hopeton Lewis came to the Federal Recording Studios with a song called Take It Easy, and I find the beat was too fast, very fast. So I told them, "Let's do this one slow", and as the music got slower, it had spaces. The slower the music, it had more spaces to do something with, so I put a bass line and play guitar in unison with the bass, and I get a bass line and the piano, Sometimes I strum, sometimes I play a bass line with the bass. That was the first slow song. Nothing else was slow at that time, everything had been ska."

Taitt had, perhaps unwittingly, created a genre called rocksteady, after pianist Gladstone Anderson remarked on the rocksteady nature of the rhythm after finishing the final take

With the emergence of rocksteady, Taitt helped to shift the rhythmic focus to the bass and the drums, instead of emphasising the horns - a feature of ska.

This feature, which has remained an ingredient of dancehall music, has also helped to bring vocalists to the fore.

Taitt always seemed eager to give everybody a touch of his magic.

Lynn Taitt orchestrates rocksteady's birth


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now lets look a little deeper

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and the Soul explosion in Jamaica

 

[Professor Mac]

@IllmaticDelta i shut you down on that whole black versus African American debate now it looks like I'm going to have to shut you down trying to discredit my Jamaicans ..

Subs for when I get off work

 

[IllmaticDelta]

@IllmaticDelta i shut you down on that whole black versus African American debate now

stop lying....I killed you in that debate with 100% facts

it looks like I'm going to have to shut you down trying to discredit my Jamaicans ..

Subs for when I get off work

...don't set yourself up for failure.....nothing you will come with with overturn facts and the words straight out of the mouths of the jamaican OG's

 

[AndYouKnowTHIS]

There's been a lot of threads like this in the past week. Trying to get the coli to "discuss" the relationship between the Diaspora/Continental Africans. This is starting to seem like an agenda now.

The coli fam has been very positive tho and there has been love shown on both sides but we need to watch these thread starters tho. :camron: @BmoreGorilla

What makes you think it's an agenda? Cacs don't went us going to Africa and becoming a prosperous Continent? Definitely seems like that's the case, we need to get up and leave

 

[Luken]

Still put on by cacs while you tried to make it seem like you did it yourself while AAs didn't and I'm not talkin about Bob Marley. I'm talking about Jamaicans image as a whole. Hollywood put that out more than anything. No one follows Jamaicans except for weirdo hipster cacs that smoke weed. So what influence?

Do nikkas honestly think they can downplay my people and not get downplayed back

....bare disrespect.


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[Luken]

Still put on by cacs while you tried to make it seem like you did it yourself while AAs didn't and I'm not talkin about Bob Marley. I'm talking about Jamaicans image as a whole. Hollywood put that out more than anything. No one follows Jamaicans except for weirdo hipster cacs that smoke weed. So what influence?

Do nikkas honestly think they can downplay my people and not get downplayed back

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[Luken]

Still put on by cacs while you tried to make it seem like you did it yourself while AAs didn't and I'm not talkin about Bob Marley. I'm talking about Jamaicans image as a whole. Hollywood put that out more than anything. No one follows Jamaicans except for weirdo hipster cacs that smoke weed. So what influence?

Do nikkas honestly think they can downplay my people and not get downplayed back

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[Luken]

Still put on by cacs while you tried to make it seem like you did it yourself while AAs didn't and I'm not talkin about Bob Marley. I'm talking about Jamaicans image as a whole. Hollywood put that out more than anything. No one follows Jamaicans except for weirdo hipster cacs that smoke weed. So what influence?

Do nikkas honestly think they can downplay my people and not get downplayed back

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[Luken]

Still put on by cacs while you tried to make it seem like you did it yourself while AAs didn't and I'm not talkin about Bob Marley. I'm talking about Jamaicans image as a whole. Hollywood put that out more than anything. No one follows Jamaicans except for weirdo hipster cacs that smoke weed. So what influence?

Do nikkas honestly think they can downplay my people and not get downplayed back

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