So are all her posts just facetious?
I assumed @Poitier was misogynistic trash
@Elle Driver you negged me on LSA
What do people mean when they say black women are "loyal" to black men ?
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I assumed @Poitier was misogynistic trash
@Elle Driver you negged me on LSA
inthebushes
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It means they don't worship cacs as much as other women do ( though the Coli tries to prove different with reverse cuckold threads.)
I serious I get ignoredit's not something someone wants to lie about
I don't really care about the swirlers, but I legit feel some type of way when black women like you feel like this Its not your appearance, so it's Gotta be something else
May be you could go to more unconventional social settings that guys will feel more comfortable approaching?
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I meant TLR, and there is no sisterhood.
This is a lie though. A lot of black women are checking for non black men. The pro swirl propaganda is spearheaded by black women. People talk about how black women on television are often paired with non black men nowadays and a lot of that is due to the fact that is what black women want to see. Black women want to see themselves being the object of desire for non black men. You don't see black women pushing back against the trend to cast them with non black men do you?
In the very post that you quoted, I clearly said that black people(men and women) are only as loyal as their options. I was speaking in general. It's not about you personally. You may be the most proud black loyal woman on earth.
Black people aren't loyal to themselves or each other enough. Nobody needs to be running around poking their chest out looking down at the opposite gender as if they're more loyal. Since this particular discussion about black women's loyalty to black men, that's what I'm thing about. The IR stats do not reflect some undying loyalty that black women have for black men. The IR stats reflect the fact that black women are the least desired women of non black men. I explained why it's important to be truthful and why propping up the false "loyalty" explanation is problematic.
It's not backwards logic. It makes perfect sense. You just don't understand or don't want to understand. Black women have a resentment for black men that's built on a bunch of bullshyt that has been perpetuated unchecked for damn 50 years. This "we more loyal than y'all" shyt is an example. I don't see black women being more loyal. I see black women promoting an ideology that's completely disloyal to black men and the black community as a whole. It's not just the swirl shyt. This push to normalize and accept homosexuality is just as disloyal as dating out.
The truth is the truth and you shouldn't deny it simply because it hurts your feelings. You also have to put the truth in proper context. The reason that white racists who like to yell out stats to show that blacks are criminals and less intelligent don't hold weight is because they fail to mention the systematic oppression that causes those stats. The crime stats are flawed because the police forces and judicial system are flawed. I don't do that when I talk about black women and their IR stats. I always put the stats in proper context. Black women are the least desired due to racism and I always mention that.
I've already explained this you're just ignoring the explanation. Understanding and accepting the truth is always beneficial. Again, this "black women are more loyal" myth has been used to justify the chip that a lot of black women have on their shoulder regarding black men. The whole black feminist ideology is built on the perceived justified resentment hat black women have for black men. The resentment is not justified and getting black people to understand that is beneficial to us all. Black women need to abandon that liberal left black feminist ideology and get back on some real black pride shyt. To black women who are truly conscious and proud to be black, somebody telling them that white men don't desire them(as mates) as much as they do non black women due to racism and racial politics doesn't mean anything because they already understand and accept that. If the truth hurts your self esteem then you should do some personal introspection because it shouldn't.
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I'm simply not going to admit something that's not happening. Black women are not spurning the advances of non black men out of loyalty to black men. If that was happening then I would gladly admit it. It's actually the exact opposite. Black women are now trending toward CHASING(never mind waiting on an advance from a non black man) non black men out of resentment and disloyalty for black men. That's what the whole swirling/something new movement is about. Why can't you admit that?
You're just lying to yourself because it makes you feel better. If it were up to black women, their IR stats would be at least double what they are right now. If white boys reciprocated the thirst for black women that black women now exhibit for white boy's the IR stat for black women would be more than doubled what it is now. All it takes is for a white boy to show that he has interest in black women and he'll a large group to pick from. The black women who lead this online swirl movement will even tell you that when they set up these meet and greets, that black women out number the non black men 2&3-1. Y'all have to stop lying.
at black women's "documented preferences". I've done nothing but talk about black women's choice in the matter. The idea that black women aren't checking for white boys is a lie that anybody with 2 eyes can see. If black women are so against IR dating then why is the approval rate for IR so high in the black community? Blacks' approval of black-white marriage (96%) is now nearly universal, while whites' approval is 12 percentage points lower, at 84%. Blacks' approval has consistently been higher than whites' over the decadesYou even have to put that 84% approval stat in a politically correct context because a lot of whites will say that they approve even if they really simply not to sound racist. There's no way that 84% of whites approve of IR, especially with blacks. Blacks don't have that incentive to lie. So when you look at it from that context you understand that blacks approve of IR much more than whites. That only makes sense seeing as how we're the one's seeking their approval. Again, 96% of the black community approves of IR. Where are all these black women who are against it? Where is the push back from these black women regarding the trend to cast almost all black women on tv with non black men? You talk that shyt with nothing backing it up. I can post to countless examples of pro-IR propaganda produced by black women, but you can't do the same in support of your position.
fukk are you babbling about here? Again, in general black women don't have white boys pursuing them to chose from. Black women's low IR stats are not due to them turning whites boys and other non black men down out of loyalty to black men. That's a lie that you're telling. It's easy to see that the biggest promoters of interracial dating are black people, men and women. You're just trying to deflect.
I have no problems having open and honest discussions about those issues. The problem with black feminists like you is that you don't care to have open and honest conversations about those issues. Black feminists simply use those issues to push their "black men ain't shyt we black women should just say fukk 'em" ideology.But I wonder how Black men would react if Black women start talking about issues by not lying to Black men as well. You know, talking about domestic violence rates, murder rates, child abandonment rates...Actually I already know. Black men call it feminism that is calling for the annihilation of Black men. I guess straight talk is only cool when used to shine the negative light on Black women
This is all about your feelings being hurt over the fact that non black men check for black women last. Whenever I point that out I always make it a point to say that the undesirablity of black women is due to racism and racial politics. I'm not arguing that black women are undesirable, I'm arguing that non black men see black women as undesirable. When you talk about the issues that you cited above you purposely ignore/dismiss the fact that all of those issues are rooted in white racism and that's the difference between you and I
"Swirling" is a specific term that was coined by a black woman who represents the kind of black women that I'm talking about.
Now that chic is extreme but her "black women should check for white boys" mentality is becoming more and more popular amongst black women. Despite the fact that black men do date out at over twice the rate, you don't see anywhere near as much pro-IR propaganda from black men. That's my point here.
Pay attention people because this is an example of a loyal black woman
All people like you do is point fingers. When I talk about the issue of pedestalizing whites I frame it as an issue with black people as a whole, men and women. You and other black feminists frame any issue facing the community as being the black man's fault with black women just bein victims. Black women like you are completely dishonest and refuse to take accountability for anything.
You're projecting your own low self esteem and insecurities. I'm under no illusions when it comes to non black women. You can parrot those stats showing how racist non black women are towards black men until you're blue in the face and it wouldn't bother me one bit. I'm in love with the truth
I know that non black women desire black men the least and I understand why. Why would you or any other black woman pointing that out bother me? The only black men that would be bothered by that are those who are insecure and seek the approval of non black women. Now here you are showing your true colors sounding like a white racist. The black man's inability to provide for himself and his family is a direct result of the centuries of oppression that have been instituted to keep the black man from providing for himself and his family. Again, I never fail to mention that white supremacy is the reason that non black men don't desire black women(as wives) and that's the difference between you and I. If you were to put those issues that you cited above in their proper context explaining how they are rooted in white racism, then I'd salute you. You're just like a white racist tho, you deliberately fail to mention that black men have been purposely handicapped and prevented from competing with other races of men on an even playing field. To keep it all the way real, traitorous black women like you have contributed to keeping the black man and black community as a whole down. Black feminist=white supremacist. You are proof.Additionally, most of Black men's issues seem to be an inability to provide for themselves and their families which is a result of a lack of strength and being dominated by white men and all other races of men whenever they are in competition. Again, I somehow doubt you'd consider it cool to go around talking about that every chance you get. Instead, with these issues, I'm sure your approach would be to talk about the systematic oppression of Black men, instead of reveling in the inferior position it has put them in in comparison to non-Black men.
But, please, continue your straight talk
PartyHeart
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Yes they do, otherwise its just lipservice
Yall already do date and marry "the dregs of other races of men" :
For example, the hypergamy ratio of white women in black male/white female (BM/WF)
unions over the period was 1.252, while the expected ratio was only 0.928, indicating that white
women are much more likely to marry up than would be expected under a model which assumes
that white women in interracial and intraracial marriages have the same underlying propensity
for educational hypergamy. Similarly, the hypergamy ratio of men in white male/black female
(WM/BF) unions was 1.099, compared to an expected value of 0.776, indicating significant upward
marriage for white men in these unions.
http://pages.uoregon.edu/aarong/pape...intermared.pdf
http://sociology.uoregon.edu/faculty/gullickson.php
Aaron Gullickson is the leading researcher of interracial marriages today.
So now being the dregs of society is about education?
Are you sure this is what you want to say?
No, but I can point to sites, youtubes and books pedastalizing non-Black men and non-Black features
And I can point you to even more for Black men including all the media they create and propel.
And I have no issue with that. I only want you (Black women)
Y'all always say this, but I never see any rush to correct the countless delusional posts about all women secretly wanting Black dikk. There is no Black man or woman who goes around constantly reminding Black men they are unwanted and undesired. Most recognize it as poisonous behavior. Why does it happen in the reverse?
@Gravity
Breh we can agree to disagree. Clearly we are coming at this from completely different angles.
I see the quote "black women are the most loyal" as black women saying we love Black men and no other women love their men as hard as we do.
I see it as a big up to black men and a put down to other women.
You see it as "black women are more loyal to black men than black men are to black women and it's undeserved "
You see it as a big up to black women and sitting on black men.
I can see we could both be correct. I am sure there are women who say it with both equally opposite intentions.
I can only speak on what it means to me though. And for me it's never meant to down talk the Black man or imply that he's not worthy.
Breh we can agree to disagree. Clearly we are coming at this from completely different angles.
I see the quote "black women are the most loyal" as black women saying we love Black men and no other women love their men as hard as we do.
I see it as a big up to black men and a put down to other women.
You see it as "black women are more loyal to black men than black men are to black women and it's undeserved "
You see it as a big up to black women and sitting on black men.
I can see we could both be correct. I am sure there are women who say it with both equally opposite intentions.
I can only speak on what it means to me though. And for me it's never meant to down talk the Black man or imply that he's not worthy.
PartyHeart
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Like I promised, I will not address the main topic. I could easily show that it is untrue (and I think you yourself know it). As well as the notion that black women "prefer" black men out of their own volition and not so because exterior pressures corral them into that position.
However these things you referenced above is what needs to be discussed. Especially on a forum dominated by black men. Furthermore it needs to be discussed in the light you and the other poster suggested; without deceit, without euphemisms, candidly. Black men run marathons away from this. They'll erect excuses, scapegoat everything and everybody: white feminism, black feminism, women, black women, white supremacy ( one of the most idiotic concepts to come out of their double thinking minds).
Yesterday I was going to post a thread inviting the ladies of the coli (who seem to give no fukks about male feelings) to come and discuss some topics I'm interested in. The reason for this: well, my ideas sometimes are not well received by my gender (a prophet in is own land, I guess). Perhaps not so remarkably, women are more at ease and more honest speaking about these things (black male failure). For this thing needs to be acknowledged, addressed, combated, so that it does not continue to lead us down the abyss we are currently on.
If I made the thread, would you participate?
What about @Miranda @bcrusaderw @LadySimone @Amethyst @nubianqueenbee ? Basically the sisterhood (or whatever other silly name you give to your group think
Yes. The other ladies would probably be more responsive, I'm generally late and don't check in as much, but I'll definitely add my two cents once (if) you decide to make it.
Ok, I'll stop.
PartyHeart
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@Gravity
Breh we can agree to disagree. Clearly we are coming at this from completely different angles.
I see the quote "black women are the most loyal" as black women saying we love Black men and no other women love their men as hard as we do.
I see it as a big up to black men and a put down to other women.
You see it as "black women are more loyal to black men than black men are to black women and it's undeserved "
You see it as a big up to black women and sitting on black men.
I can see we could both be correct. I am sure there are women who say it with both equally opposite intentions.
I can only speak on what it means to me though. And for me it's never meant to down talk the Black man or imply that he's not worthy.
I can assure you his response to you and his responses in general have nothing to do with him thinking anyone is shytting on Black men. His responses are entirely for the purposes of shytting on Black women.
Look up the thread where he was saying Black men sexing/dating/marrying white women is a good strategy to attack white supremacy (and of course not the reverse) and it'll tell you everything you need to know about his mindset.
Respect. Like I said, it's not personal. I've got a great mother, daughter, and lady. I've got nothing but love for black women.The closest people to me are black women. I know for a fact that there are loyal black women out here. When speaking in general tho I've got to keep it real. Generally speaking, black people are only as loyal as their options.@Gravity
Breh we can agree to disagree. Clearly we are coming at this from completely different angles.
I see the quote "black women are the most loyal" as black women saying we love Black men and no other women love their men as hard as we do.
I see it as a big up to black men and a put down to other women.
You see it as "black women are more loyal to black men than black men are to black women and it's undeserved "
You see it as a big up to black women and sitting on black men.
I can see we could both be correct. I am sure there are women who say it with both equally opposite intentions.
I can only speak on what it means to me though. And for me it's never meant to down talk the Black man or imply that he's not worthy.
