What Do You Think A Trump Win Would Mean?
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Dameon Farrow
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To answer OP, white folks down here won't look as miserable.....
Man in the South they are taking this shyt hard you can see it in their faces. I live in a red state, mind you.
Man in the South they are taking this shyt hard you can see it in their faces. I live in a red state, mind you.
ADevilYouKhow
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Victory for democracy amirite?
Real change......
Nah im not that naive..it would be 4 years of wrangling,infighting and Gridlock but at least the United War Partys globalist plans will be foiled for 4 years..No TPP no invasions in Syria and Yemen and if were lucky some domestic issues will be sorted out.
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the next guy
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It won't be a blowout. Hillary was only up +5 when trump really got hit bad (khans, tape). To start I think she win, but she won't get 320 electoral votes. Maybe 290. I think Trump can take at least NC and Nevada given he was ahead in Nevada for most of the summer. I see 230 electoral votes in a close loss. She might even lose the popular vote now regardless if she wins or not. That's a damning statement in itself.
What does trump getting elected mean? It means Washington has failed US. It means, yes America is racist. It also means the people on the coast have ignored the inland since carter and now its reckoning time. Those that will bear the brunt will be the POC, which is the first concern of many of us. It seems these days if you don't live in NYC, San Francisco, DC or Atlanta/Houston/Dallas you have been left behind. Right now we have black people not being able to walk down the street out of fear of getting shot. We have white people dying of drug overdoses in places like New Hampshire. This country has been broken since 2001 and we got exposed by the recession. America is not working right now for most people, and that needs to change. Maybe if we had done so before, there would be no Trump running.
Secondly, conservatism has failed. They lose everything. If I was a gop base member, I would be furious. They lost at abortion, gay marriage, immigration, traditional values (many of these dudes still hate career women.), etc and the list goes on. Their out of touch with their own base of trade. They won on gun rights but that is even fleeting considering white millenials hate guns as much as POC do. Conservatives, instead of being realistic riled up their base and did many awful and racist things to Obama. They tried to get it going during mid bush but cheney dealt with them. Cheney ran Trump's current VP, Pence out of congress when he criticized Dubya back in the day, few people know this. They lost control of their base, and they constantly bend over for corporations that are run by social liberals, who laugh at conservatives activists and trump supporters behind their backs at their cocktail parties in NYC and San Francisco. Conservatives did this to themselves, and they have no one else to blame. They don't win, they just use conservatism to fund raise for their ridiculous money losing magazines like National Review, blow money at CPAC, and waste money at their think tanks which also don't make money. It wasn't before long that the base would get upset.
Trumpmania should be a tough lesson to both sides, don't ignore the voters and put corporations ahead of people.
Basically. But I do see a change in foreign policy.
@the next guy conservatives do win. They have most state congresses and 31 governorships. The demographics are not there for them to win the presidency, but they win everything else. The SCOTUS won the gay marriage issue. They have not lost the immigration issue because a court ruled Obama's executive actions were wrong. They're going to get the free trade they want passed by a Democratic president so they escape blame while supporting it. They've fought off most minimum wage increases. They've cut social welfare programs across the board. They're about to get a hawkish president.
the next guy
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I disagree. What have they done with these 31 state wins? Some abortion stuff, which was overturned by SCOTUS? Gay marriage is legal now eh? I never thought that would happen. I don't think trump will do the mass deportations at least for 2 years, but these people will try to stop him, knowing their base favors mass deportations. The GOP base opposes nearly all of these free trade deals and yet the conservative punditry and republic congress support TPP as you have said. They oppose wage increases because the corporations don't want it. What does this say? "Conservatism" is about separating white people from their money. They haven't done anything for their. They congress back in 2010 and have done nothing since. They deserve trump, especially for trying to pretend that Jeb Bush was supposed to win in 2016.
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IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
It's pretty clear who they do blame, though.
ADevilYouKhow
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Gut workers rights
Not expand medicaid
Run huge deficits
Cut taxes to the point of bankruptcies
Environmental laws
Basically all the wingnut shyt they talk about they do unchecked
Voter disenfranchisement...
I'm sure there's more
things would only get worse for anyone remotely to the left if Trump nominates anyone to scotus.
Conservatives have done a lot of damage in their respective states
the next guy
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It's pretty clear who they do blame, though.
Amen to that!
See, but look all of those. Half these things are traditionally "conservative" and there others are taking orders from their corporate masters. I want a working class white person to tell you and me, what did conservatism do for them?
I'll admit the voting rights thing was bad, if they lose congress and Pelosi gets in you better believe there will be a new, stronger one.
ADevilYouKhow
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They laws don't work for the people it's not just an issue of politics of left and right. They don't work in theory or practice, and Conservatives run it over and over again so don't act like it's not a big deal. I don't think the working class white living check to check or living on the dole in a trailer park has the time or care to think about how conservative policy positively or negatively affects their lives.
the next guy
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It is a big deal. But trump is not conservative. And to be honest, the way these people have supported free trade, left folks with no job and no future, don't they deserve this? They lost control of their base.
ADevilYouKhow
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Trump is a conservative. He's back by them and supported by them. He has the Republican nomination.
Who deserves what? Who did what?
ADevilYouKhow
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Not to mention dismantling unions through right to work laws (Wisconson, etc.).
Making it damn near impossible to have an abortion in certain states (Indiana, etc.).
Dismantling the social welfare state (Ohio, etc.)
Nah, conservatives have been fukking up a lot of shyt. People need to stop pretending that the GOP is dead.