What girl hurt Tupac?

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Breh, I KNOW I'm bout to get the neg train or whatever but I wholeheartedly agree. Tupac had a great influence in hip hop

but he wasn't that great of a lyricist and he was a character. I just had this convo with my boy yesterday, we like the only two in the world I guess that think that way lol...

I got nothing but respect for breh,


but that "B_____ ain't ish" rhetoric and gangster act wasn't him.... :hubie:

have at it...:manny:
Hard to "Act" gangster when you refuse to bow down to nikkas that have guns drawn on you. I guarantee you whatever rapper you think is hard would've folded under the same circumstances at Quad when Pac refused to lay down :coffee:
 

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How do Pac stans spin the last clip? Growth?
Pac moved to the Bay and found out how vicious these hoes really are. A Bay bish got Jeezy singing Tevin Campbell songs on camera, a Bay bish had Usher having babies by her and cut his mama off, a Bay bish got Ray-J out the game. These broads got game and Pac adapted quick.
 

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Hard to "Act" gangster when you refuse to bow down to nikkas that have guns drawn on you. I guarantee you whatever rapper you think is hard would've folded under the same circumstances at Quad when Pac refused to lay down :coffee:

It's more than that, but I see how you moving. You a Pac fan, and that's cool. We gon always see things differently when it comes to him, and I understand.

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:mjlol: These narratives were said even while he was alive tho when it came to his music, nikka personality changed within each album :pachaha:.
2pac showed the full spectrum because there are all different types of women. You have your queens and you have hoes. It would be a lie if he referred to ALL women as goddesses, or called them all bytches.
 

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It's more than that, but I see how you moving. You a Pac fan, and that's cool. We gon always see things differently when it comes to him, and I understand.

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When under the gun Pac never folded. He went at it with the biggest gangsters in NY ...(dudes that was extorting your NY goats) and LA and never cowered...if that's being fake then I wonder how hard folk on here are if they think they got more heart :manny:
 

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I mean didn't Zo baby momma threaten to do a tell all.

She also called him a deadbeat. Which is one of the worst insults to call a black (in his case half black) man. Especially since he was away from his daughter because of practice. If a father is constantly working he is doing it to provide for his family that is not a deadbeat dad. A deadbeat dad is Terrell Owens father who stayed across the street from Terell but still didn't try to be a father. So I feel him on that standoffish vibe he gave her.

How do Pac stans spin the last clip? Growth?

I think his mentality changed after he got accused of rape. But honestly, everyone men and women go through that I gonna respect all women and all men until you meet that one a$$hole that shows you differently.
 

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Pac stans love romanticizing his method "gangsta" acting :mjlol: it's like the main reason they love him is because of his gangsta image.

I read an article by an old pac associate a few years ago, who said that during the all eyez on me recording sessions that it pained pac to rap half of the songs on that album because he knew that wasn't him. Even noted that during certain verses in the songs you can hear pac not feeling the lyrics.
Foh :coffee:
 

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Awesome rapper, revolutionary, poet and one of the most talented rappers to ever exist.

But Pac was the original studio gangster, wanna be blood, & try hard.Which eventually led to his death. He was also lowkey bipolar so he’d flip flop on views.
Studio gangster yet when real gangsters had guns drawn on him in the studio he refused to fold....make that make sense.
 

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The real answer.
Look at the year Tupac was born. Add 14-20 years to that date and you're talking the country being KNEE DEEP in the crack era. Lot of dudes from that generation were catching Ls with chicks, losing out to dudes who were getting street money.

That resentment and "B*tches ain't shyt" mentality spread among dudes of that generation(and later)..and the Too Shorts and NWAs of the world made songs appealing to dudes who felt that way.
 
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It's the truth :manny: the associate even named the songs...

Shorty Wanna Be A Thug
Ratha Be Ya N___A
Skandalouz
Run Tha Streetz
Thug Passion
Ain't Hard 2 Find
Whatz Ya Phone #? (Why you think Pac only spit on half the song :martin:)
Wonda Why They Call U Bytch

Every one of those songs were painful for him to spit but he mailed those verses in due to his obligations to Suge.
 

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It's the truth :manny: the associate even named the songs...

Shorty Wanna Be A Thug
Ratha Be Ya N___A
Skandalouz
Run Tha Streetz
Thug Passion
Ain't Hard 2 Find
Whatz Ya Phone #? (Why you think Pac only spit on half the song :martin:)
Wonda Why They Call U Bytch

Every one of those songs were painful for him to spit but he mailed those verses in due to his obligations to Suge.
:mjlol::pachaha: Like Pac didn't have songs like that prior to All Eyez On Me. Stop it...you're making yourself look bad.
 

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Half the posters in this thread not even old enough to remember when he was alive but still romanticizing the wildest theories :pachaha:
 
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:mjlol::pachaha: Like Pac didn't have songs like that prior to All Eyez On Me. Stop it...you're making yourself look bad.
If you wanna think I'm lying go ahead but it's facts...and Pac was definitely not spitting that type of stuff on his prior albums:comeon:, most of AEOM is that Suge influenced.

I think im done with this, Pac stans :mjlol:
 
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