What Happened After a 16-year-old Chose FAMU Over Harvard

[KenyaDoll]

Dude actually read the article and tell me what you disagree with and why. Don't just say its fluff. The article clearly states that blacks are being mismatched into schools they cannot handle, all for the sake of diversity. So you don't think that's true?

Theories are fluff. I want you to produce STATS and DATA to support your claims NOT theories.

 

[bigDeeOT]

You already quoted that. That is what we at Ivy league institutions, keep word WE, call fluff. Again, the article did provide some stats related to test score percentile ranks at one school (UT Austin), where is the actual DATA for all of these schools that Black students don't belong in?

The data is right there in what you just said. UT Austin is accepting black students who score SIGNIFICANTLY lower on the SAT. So you don't putting lower scoring SAT students in a classroom full of much higher scoring SAT students is a problem?

 

[bigDeeOT]

Theories are fluff. I want you to produce STATS and DATA to support your claims NOT theories.

Why can't you actually address any of the theories directly and tell me why you disagree with them?

I will show you the data you just wait.

 

[KenyaDoll]

The data is right there in what you just said. UT Austin is accepting black students who score SIGNIFICANTLY lower on the SAT. So you don't putting lower scoring SAT students in a classroom full of much higher scoring SAT students is a problem?

I only think it's a problem if those scores are WAYYYY outside of the average range of ALL admitted students AND if those test scores are lower than what is needed to actually succeed.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

From Harvard to FAMU to God

Biggest loss EVER

 

[KenyaDoll]

Why can't you actually address any of the theories directly and tell me why you disagree with them?

I will show you the data you just wait.

Because the only way to support or refute a theory is by actually collecting data through a rigorous research study. It's all fine and dandy to say what we think but the proof is in the data and not the actual theory.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ive brought it up a couple times here, my bro goes to Yale and he didn't really like it there for reasons not too far from this

Well your bro needs to suck it up.

I went to a top PWI and honestly, the real world ain't too far off from that.

You gotta make it work.

 

[bigDeeOT]

http://www.princeton.edu/economics/...pplied_micros-s12/Prop_209_Paper_03-31-12.pdf

In contrast to the results on enrollment, minority college graduation rates, both on-time and within 6 years of enrollment, improved for California’s public 4-year colleges with the implementation of Prop 209 and improved relative to the corresponding rates of whites or Asian Americans.

Our finding that minority college graduation rates improved after the implementation of Prop 209 is consistent with what one would predict would happen after such a ban if minority mismatch occurred under affirmative action admissions policies. But, it also is consistent with Prop 209 disproportionately reducing the number of less-academically prepared minorities attending all public colleges, including less-selective ones, and minority graduation rates increasing solely due to the change in pool of minority college enrollees.

 

[KenyaDoll]

The data is right there in what you just said. UT Austin is accepting black students who score SIGNIFICANTLY lower on the SAT. So you don't putting lower scoring SAT students in a classroom full of much higher scoring SAT students is a problem?

That is for UT Austin. I asked you for the data for all the schools that Black students don't belong in.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Well your bro needs to suck it up.

I went to a top PWI and honestly, the real world ain't too far off from that.

You gotta make it work.

Holy crap that's another very good point. If these people are complaining about universities not being so friendly with them, what are they gonna do when they actually hit the job market? Are they going to go get a job at Microsoft and take pictures saying "I too am Microsoft"?

 

[KenyaDoll]

http://www.princeton.edu/economics/...pplied_micros-s12/Prop_209_Paper_03-31-12.pdf

Okay thank you. That is for California. Prop 209 actually proved that a lot of white people don't belong in the top UCs either considering growing Asian population. Do you think they (white people) should stop getting preference over Asians at other top schools or should only Black people be excluded?

 

[bigDeeOT]

I only think it's a problem if those scores are WAYYYY outside of the average range of ALL admitted students AND if those test scores are lower than what is needed to actually succeed.

What a joke. You're asking for a hyperbole because you know it won't ever be that way.

How about this. Their lower test scores ARE lower than what they need to succeed and I just proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt with that paper from Princeton I just posted. You're in dential.

That is for UT Austin. I asked you for the data for all the schools that Black students don't belong in.

What a joke. You're obviously not interested in engaging in an intellectual discussion. If you were you would realize that what happens here at UT Austin can be extrapolated to most other universities as well. You're telling me you agree that some black students shouldn't be at UT, but you refuse to believe that same effect may be true at other universities? You're in denial

 

[bigDeeOT]

Okay thank you. That is for California. Prop 209 actually proved that a lot of white people don't belong in the top UCs either considering growing Asian population. Do you think they (white people) should stop getting preference over Asians at other top schools or should only Black people be excluded?

What kind of dumb question is that? The fact that you even ask that proves what I said earlier. You're in denial and you're not looking to actually come to the truth even though I just proved it to you.

 

[KenyaDoll]

What a joke. You're asking for a hyperbole because you know it won't ever be that way.

How about this. Their lower test scores ARE lower than what they need to succeed and I just proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt with that paper from Princeton I just posted. You're in dential.



What a joke. You're obviously not interested in engaging in an intellectual discussion. If you were you would realize that what happens here at UT Austin can be extrapolated to most other universities as well. You're telling me you agree that some black students shouldn't be at UT, but you refuse to believe that same effect may be true at other universities? You're in denial

Dude...that paper was for California and I said thank you.

You need to google because you can not use that data to EXTRAPOLATE anything.

I asked you to show data to say that black students test scores are outside of their averages (that proves that they don't belong there) and you still haven't done that. You are making big claims that I want you to support. You keep cherry picking studies and trying to generalize them to every school which is wrong considering the fact that school have different admissions standards.

If the test scores are within the age then why don't they deserve a chance?

 

[L&HH]

Well your bro needs to suck it up.

I went to a top PWI and honestly, the real world ain't too far off from that.

You gotta make it work.

And I don't disagree with you. Pretty much what I, my pops, and friends told him. But that was back his freshman year, he's about to graduate in a week so I guess he figured it out.