what happened to irv gotti?

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Last time I saw Gotti's name mentioned was when he was pushing hard for that Def Jam HNIC role.
Joey got the role and he's been nowhere to be seen.

Up until his ego seemingly went overboard he had a great run. Those DMX and Ja Rule albums kept Def Jam's lights on for a while.

I wouldn't be mad if Dame and Irv made a comeback. I'd never happen though.
 

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According to the book queens reigns supreme, irv gotti was a middle class guy who became obsessed with street credibility and began associating with hardcore gangsters like supreme mcgriff, but in all cases was in over his head and in all cases all his dealings with gangsters stood to benefit gangsters far more than they could benefit him.

Thats just one account of this guy, but based on his public persona, he comes off like dame dash lite, aka a complete idiot :heh:

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Why is it that niccas from the burbs always go out their way to prove to "the streets" that they are something?

The likes of Suge and Dame can never come back and prosper in this suburban friendly rap game. Imagine them promoting the likes of Wiz or Drake?
 

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Why is it that niccas from the burbs always go out their way to prove to "the streets" that they are something?

The likes of Suge and Dame can never come back and prosper in this suburban friendly rap game. Imagine them promoting the likes of Wiz or Drake?

i think alotta nikkas wait until they get put in the position to make moves

then tuen to the streets, i see it everyday

nikkas be wanting that fast money plus the legal money

you'll be suprised the biggest dope nikkas be fags, lame nikkas, and jews
 

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I give zero credence to this "Irv Gotti and others were trying to put something together but the feds gotta hate :sad: " theories. Irv gotti and them shouldn't have been involved in underground sh1t if they were going to do something beautiful and revolutionary and wanted everyone's support for it

FOR REAL!!!

who the f*ck did irv and them think they was, every rich and connected white family in American history who ascended to a tyrannical powerhouse and became an eternally wealthy empire??

america wasn't built on nefarious routes to power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was built on hard work... wholesome, legal, clean hard work.
 

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FOR REAL!!!

who the f*ck did irv and them think they was, every rich and connected white family in American history who ascended to a tyrannical powerhouse and became an eternally wealthy empire??

america wasn't built on nefarious routes to power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was built on hard work... wholesome, legal, clean hard work.

that's not the point though. the point is that the conspiracy suggests that the feds specifically cracked down on them because of their record label and not the shenanigans they were already involved in. Not to mention, they didn't form a corporation or take any steps towards making this magical black distribution label at all. Sorry Irv isn't a martyr to black business. He's just someone who got caught up in bullsh1t

If someone from another ethnicity was "going to do" (or did!) something cool but got raided and closed down by the feds too I'd say the same thing. Just cause you want to make a new business doesn't mean we have to be mad at the cops for closing down your old business
 

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Why is it that niccas from the burbs always go out their way to prove to "the streets" that they are something?

The likes of Suge and Dame can never come back and prosper in this suburban friendly rap game. Imagine them promoting the likes of Wiz or Drake?

Suge Knight was a career criminal and grew up in a Blood hood. Go read the DOC interview when he talks about how Suge was well known for beating nikkas up as far back as the early 80s and had nikkas scared to death of him, well before he had money.
 

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that's not the point though. the point is that the conspiracy suggests that the feds specifically cracked down on them because of their record label and not the shenanigans they were already involved in. Not to mention, they didn't form a corporation or take any steps towards making this magical black distribution label at all. Sorry Irv isn't a martyr to black business. He's just someone who got caught up in bullsh1t

If someone from another ethnicity was "going to do" (or did!) something cool but got raided and closed down by the feds too I'd say the same thing. Just cause you want to make a new business doesn't mean we have to be mad at the cops for closing down your old business

BMF got shut down as soon as they crossed over to the music world

every rapper wanted to join them

you dont think that made labels mad?

and Meech aint get em caught T did
 

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BMF got shut down as soon as they crossed over to the music world

every rapper wanted to join them

you dont think that made labels mad?

and Meech aint get em caught T did

All I'm saying is that whatever Irv was thinking of doing he doesn't really have my sympathy or outrage for getting raided if Murda Inc was really involved in extra bullsh1t, you know? "We were involved in criminal enterprises and it was going fine until we wanted to move into this other lane" isn't really going to make me think "yeah dude you were discriminated against". If you had a legit career and were moving into another lane and then got fukked then I'd be like yeah this is a terrible conspiracy
 

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FOR REAL!!!

who the f*ck did irv and them think they was, every rich and connected white family in American history who ascended to a tyrannical powerhouse and became an eternally wealthy empire??

america wasn't built on nefarious routes to power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was built on hard work... wholesome, legal, clean hard work.

:snoop: so white people worked hard in them cotton fields, is that what you're saying breh?
 
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