what happened to the real oldheads?

[cleanface coney]

imo, it would be by relating to the person with love and compassion (getting as close as you can to the frequency of the other person's thoughts, in their point of thinking in space or "mind space").

imo, existence is the reception of the image of reality and life via experience is our understanding (to varying degrees) of existence.

being thoughtful with the language that we use, since language is an expression of what we think we know about how things are (reality).

one of the first philosophical realizations is to know that you do not know. the things that we learn are in layers, so once we think we know about something, we can still learn more about that thing.

for example, looking at an image from a distance one can acknowledge what it may be. as one gets closer to the image or idea, he will then have more detail and resolution and hence, a better understanding.

that helps in communicating what we think we know and a step further, helps us learn what we think others may know.

however, there is a slippery-slope. being aware at a certain level and disregarding that awareness has its ramifications. understanding is a certain level of awareness and realization is another layer of knowing the truth.

sometimes people are not ready to hear what you have to say or you may not be ready to convey a message you think you understand. because what you say may sound like nonsense to the person that does not care to be in your mindspace, either because of his lack of detail in understanding or yours.

we can do certain things in practice to help us have better understanding: paying better attention to our surroundings (having more awareness). reflecting, which is thinking about our experiences and how we as individuals fit in the picture. meditating, allowing our thoughts to clear of the emotions of the energy that has "charged" our thoughts. reading, if one is a religious or spiritual person, then they would take the time to read scripture that is relevant to them.

i hope that doesn't sound corny or preachy, but i used the language that i used because it is very basic, which is more relatable in scope - through dialogue and conversation we can add more detail.

man its so much truth in this i dont even know where to began

i could be wrong but it kind of sounds like you study metaphysics
i like how you broke it down man this some deep shyt

sometimes as a young dude i question myself as to why i make the decisions i make. whether good or bad i think its good to reflect

also i noticed alot of people true intentions or thoughts sometimes are in the back of their head...its hard to get out
thats why i say its important for older people to help guide some of these young dudes...sometimes its in they head they just dont know how to get it out

at some point we stopped explaining why we do the things we do(school,work,career, etc) and replaced it with material things
thats why the message is so simple but at the same time alot of people arent catchin on to it or arent aware of it....

people have no room to think for themselves on a mental,spiritual,thought provoking level
and on top of that no one is helpin them open that part of their mind up
i like the way you explained it though man

 

[DreadHead P]

I was thinkin bout the same shyt breh, I look back at my life and all the jewels dropped on me and I can kinda see why these young niccas are the way they are if they're missin that. My pops was 47 when I was born so I was raised by a ol head, respected in the community with a large social circle so I learned from alot of ol heads comin up.

I learned how to play chess from an ol' head my dad called Channel Master, he owned a pool hall (JC heads may remember the joint on Ocean and Claremount next to the church), I got mad memories of goin thru there wit my moms and my pops just to kick, he lived above the pool hall and he had like 10 rat terriers me and my lil brother use to play wit he sat me down one day and set up a set on a table outside in front of the spot and taught me how to play, I was about 7

I try to pay it forward though, I try to leave those kinds of memories with the youngins I cross paths with. There's this group of boys that live in my complex, they all somewhere between 14 and 16, one of em is my homieboy's nephew, lil niccas don't be havin nothin to do but run around the complex fuccin wit girls and scarin the white people. They can get weed but they cant go to a store and get cigars so one day they decide to come knock on my door tryin to by one (first time I did it I had no idea who they were till he mentioned his uncle). Thought I'd see what I could get em to talk about one day so I started matching one wit em when they came thru and I would just build wit em, random knowledge, dope documentaries, slide em a book every now and then and tell em to take their time,I even taught em how to play chess, now they come thru wit shyt to talk about, just tryin to keep em out of trouble

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

seems like all the real money getters either dead or in jail

old heads nowadays dont even put young nikkas on game

all these older nikkas some bytches to me

thats why i talk reckless to em


whats some lesson you learned from yall oldheads?

Your quote is confusing to me.
In the order of your statements.
1.Why are the only people you respect dead or in jail?(that alone speaks volumes about your situation)

2.then you say old head don't put you on game. Then in you next sentence you say they are bytches and you talk reckless to them.

Are you seeking advice from them and they are turning you down? Or is what they are saying is irrelevent?

I ask that to say, is that the reason why you ask about old heads we know, cause the old head you know ain't shyt?

It seems like you are getting great answers in general, in this thread regardless. So I really only have on question.

What topic do you feel you are being slighted by old heads giving you game in?

 

[Binary]

Grandma is from the islands so when she drops gems I'm like

 

[BrothaZay]

Difference between old heads then and old heads of today and the future, is that the old heads in the past had fathers in their lives.

 

[Pazzy]

one thing that i learned is that you don't advertise your business like that. no need to announce anything and etc. you just keep your mouth shut. the more you expose of yourself, the more likely you're going to get into some shyt. i don't get down with any of that street shyt nor have i ever been involved with that life and don't ever plan on getting into it. i don't condone that lifestyle either because there's a better way than to be a terrorist to your neighborhood. folks always care about that attention so much that they're really to get themselves in trouble so folks can go like "that's a "real" dude right there. i got love for that dude. he bust his gun and he sells drugs." yeah, okay. no need to dry snitch on yourself or have the whole world know your name. you ain't even supposed to be doing that street bullshyt anyway. do the right thing and if you do the wrong thing, then you know what comes along with that where you can't play the victim if your ass gets caught.

 

[cleanface coney]

Your quote is confusing to me.
In the order of your statements.
1.Why are the only people you respect dead or in jail?(that alone speaks volumes about your situation)

2.then you say old head don't put you on game. Then in you next sentence you say they are bytches and you talk reckless to them.

Are you seeking advice from them and they are turning you down? Or is what they are saying is irrelevent?

I ask that to say, is that the reason why you ask about old heads we know, cause the old head you know ain't shyt?

It seems like you are getting great answers in general, in this thread regardless. So I really only have on question.

What topic do you feel you are being slighted by old heads giving you game in?

i fukks with you bro but i think you be reading my post too deep

its true alot of the gogetters are in jail or dead
when i mean that i meant by during the crack era alot of black dudes with the gogetter mindset got caught up

my momma told me that alot of black doctors,scientist,lawyers etc are in jail and never to forget that
the real leaders or people who had that ability to lead are at an alltime low in black communties
i stand by that statement

im not neccessarily dissing anybody just statin my opinion of the shyt i see everyday

i dont personally feel slighted im just speakin on behalf of young dudes
my mind wonders man i cant help it....its better than i hate black this and that liek the rest of these threads

im sorry man if its not all perfectly worded but its truth to a certain extent imo

 

[cleanface coney]

I was thinkin bout the same shyt breh, I look back at my life and all the jewels dropped on me and I can kinda see why these young niccas are the way they are if they're missin that. My pops was 47 when I was born so I was raised by a ol head, respected in the community with a large social circle so I learned from alot of ol heads comin up.

I learned how to play chess from an ol' head my dad called Channel Master, he owned a pool hall (JC heads may remember the joint on Ocean and Claremount next to the church), I got mad memories of goin thru there wit my moms and my pops just to kick, he lived above the pool hall and he had like 10 rat terriers me and my lil brother use to play wit he sat me down one day and set up a set on a table outside in front of the spot and taught me how to play, I was about 7

I try to pay it forward though, I try to leave those kinds of memories with the youngins I cross paths with. There's this group of boys that live in my complex, they all somewhere between 14 and 16, one of em is my homieboy's nephew, lil niccas don't be havin nothin to do but run around the complex fuccin wit girls and scarin the white people. They can get weed but they cant go to a store and get cigars so one day they decide to come knock on my door tryin to by one (first time I did it I had no idea who they were till he mentioned his uncle). Thought I'd see what I could get em to talk about one day so I started matching one wit em when they came thru and I would just build wit em, random knowledge, dope documentaries, slide em a book every now and then and tell em to take their time,I even taught em how to play chess, now they come thru wit shyt to talk about, just tryin to keep em out of trouble

exactly man this some real shyt

just lil shyt like this can make something click in the back of they head
one of them conversations,documentaries, chess matches might wake one of em up...you never know man

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

i fukks with you bro but i think you be reading my post too deep

its true alot of the gogetters are in jail or dead
when i mean that i meant by during the crack era alot of black dudes with the gogetter mindset got caught up

my momma told me that alot of black doctors,scientist,lawyers etc are in jail and never to forget that
the real leaders or people who had that ability to lead are at an alltime low in black communties
i stand by that statement

im not neccessarily dissing anybody just statin my opinion of the shyt i see everyday

i dont personally feel slighted im just speakin on behalf of young dudes
my mind wonders man i cant help it....its better than i hate black this and that liek the rest of these threads

im sorry man if its not all perfectly worded but its truth to a certain extent imo

Yes, I do tend to read into things all little deeper than they are sometimes. But that's only because if I feel strongly about a subject and intent to voice my opinion I wanna know exactly what I'm getting myself into before I give them unjust ridicule/praise.

But as far as you explained it above I do kinda get where you are coming from.

 

[cleanface coney]

Yes, I do tend to read into things all little deeper than they are sometimes. But that's only because if I feel strongly about a subject and intent to voice my opinion I wanna know exactly what I'm getting myself into before I give them unjust ridicule/praise.

But as far as you explained it above I do kinda get where you are coming from.

yea i peep thats why i aint got no problem explaining cuz i know you always kick real shyt

i only make these threads for real cats and i know its some dudes that know where im coming from...hopefully somebody reading this and read something they think about everyday for the rest of their life
thats how i learned alot of shyt...it might not of been right at that exact moment
but when certain situations arise. its like shyt older dudes told me it was goin to happen..whether i still made the right or wrong choice was up to me

alot of dudes dont even have that privilege or was even given that opportunity

but it made me realize that sometimes the truth might be in you you just dont know how to bring it out or word it correctly

i'll be lying if i said i aint learned shyt from this website and think about it everyday to this day

one dude on here put me on TESOL( Teaching English as a Second Language)
got me seriously thinking about gettin into that career if this fianance/loan thing dont work out

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

true but who do you know to respect?

i look eye to eye with everybody

i dont even look up to my pops

i just hope one day to make it where he at

and be just as real a nikka to my son/daughter as he was to me

Sounds like he did his job... and you do respect him

You wouldn't aspire to be like someone you dont respect

And yea with kids actually out here killing people, as well as having a much stronger "fukk them old heads" attitude, you cant really blame em for not kicking game. You can't kick game to a nikka who is not only unreceptive to it, but just generally sociopathic and homicidal. Then when those dudes subject themselves to the fukked up legal system and come out righteous, nobody wants to hear what they have to say...

... cause theyre old heads

I dont believe in conspiracy theories but if I did this cycle of self-destruction black people are in would make for a brilliant one.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

yea i peep thats why i aint got no problem explaining cuz i know you always kick real shyt

i only make these threads for real cats and i know its some dudes that know where im coming from...hopefully somebody reading this and read something they think about everyday for the rest of their life
thats how i learned alot of shyt...it might not of been right at that exact moment
but when certain situations arise. its like shyt older dudes told me it was goin to happen..whether i still made the right or wrong choice was up to me

alot of dudes dont even have that privilege or was even given that opportunity

but it made me realize that sometimes the truth might be in you you just dont know how to bring it out or word it correctly

i'll be lying if i said i aint learned shyt from this website and think about it everyday to this day

one dude on here put me on TESOL( Teaching English as a Second Language)
got me seriously thinking about gettin into that career if this fianance/loan thing dont work out

 

[cleanface coney]

Sounds like he did his job... and you do respect him

You wouldn't aspire to be like someone you dont respect

And yea with kids actually out here killing people, as well as having a much stronger "fukk them old heads" attitude, you cant really blame em for not kicking game. You can't kick game to a nikka who is not only unreceptive to it, but just generally sociopathic and homicidal. Then when those dudes subject themselves to the fukked up legal system and come out righteous, nobody wants to hear what they have to say...

... cause theyre old heads

I dont believe in conspiracy theories but if I did this cycle of self-destruction black people are in would make for a brilliant one.

yea you right man nikkas do be trippin but it was crime back then too
my prob is the line is so thin its somewhat confusing
its so many traps out here even for regular young black dudes its crazy
can we agree on dat?

i blame older generations for not speakin on overall knowledge not just tryna make it
its always always exceptions but im speakin for the overall climate in our comminuties

liek bro said when was the last time you heard a nikka playin chess smokin blunts exchangin knowledge? its not as common as it should be or as it was back in the days...even the killers and dealers back den had knowledge they just made the choice to be that type

these lil dudes are in middle school tryna portray that life now smh
who fault is that? how you gone blame a kid?

 

[Non Sequitur]

its crazy how sometimes a nikka gotta got to jail to hear some real shyt smh

Maybe it took going to jail to actually make him listen

That shyt is the ultimate reality check

 

[SemiEnlightenedBum]

there's still a few old heads around my hood,they're mostly all mad beat up by life physically&mentally and are current or ex addicts,but i still got love for them&lend them my ear when i can

still got my Garveyite/UNIA/GD/Panther "mentor" alive and kickin,beast hasn't swallowed him yet,all praises due

for the most part however the real elders got vamped&incarcerated a long time ago so you young heads would have no guidance&direction and act like ya'll do,they left snitches and homo's to lead the way and look what manifests

no family structure,no unity,no direction,no love=mayhem