What If Black America Were a Country?

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What If Black America Were a Country?
The statistics reveal a fragile state within a superpower.
THEODORE R. JOHNSONOCT 14 2014, 8:10 AM ET
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In a recent debate with a CNN contributor, the conservative radio talk-show host Larry Elder declared that “if black America were a country, it would be the 15th-wealthiest country in the world.” His math proved incorrect, and his invocation of “black America” was followed by a refutation of the concept by a fellow black conservative. Shortly after Elder’s remarks, the Republican strategist Ron Christie argued that there is no such thing as ‘black America’ and, further, that the very notion of it is antithetical “to our national motto of E Pluribus Unum.”

Whether these men know it or not, they are continuing a debate that W.E.B. Du Bois gave voice to 80 years ago in his resignation speech from the NAACP. In a farewell address titled, “A Negro Nation Within a Nation,” Du Bois asserted:

The peculiar position of Negroes in America offers an opportunity. … With the use of their political power, their power as consumers, and their brainpower … Negroes can develop in the United States an economic nation within a nation ...

Though Du Bois eventually took an extreme turn toward communism and emigrated to Ghana, the goal of “fellowship and equality in the United States” remained his burning desire. As for the belief that black America is an immense, multifaceted asset to the United States, his instincts were right: Black Americans boast enormous capital that has been exploited over the course of the nation’s history and has yet to be fairly and fully employed to increase prosperity for all Americans.

This decades-old conversation invites a thought experiment: If black America were a nation-state, how would it stack up against other countries? How would it fare on standard measures of national power and weakness?

Naturally, this exercise presumes a monolithic black America, but this is a standard hazard when comparing large entities using statistical medians and per-capita rates. Another obvious concern is that a sub-national, racial demographic is not equivalent to a sovereign nation. Nearly all the sources of black America’s attributes are grounded in America’s history, economy, geography, and government structures. Still, it is this truism that gives weight to the insight revealed by the following charts: Black America is a fragile stateembedded in the greatest superpower the world has ever known.

In the infographics below, two pictures emerge. The first is of a strong nation with considerable manpower and purchasing power. The second is of a troubled, fragile state suffering from socioeconomic disparities and structural subjugation in ways that degrade life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (on some measures, black America resembles countries like Brazil, China, and Russia—emerging powers that are struggling with stark economic inequality). Essentially, what we're witnessing is a nation that is comparable in certain ways to a regional power existing in the state of Disparistan (or, perhaps, Despairistan). This is more than an inconvenient truth; it fundamentally undermines the United States’ greatest contribution to humanity: the American idea.

The statistics tell the story.


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I was reading about a real life idea on this in the Republic of New Afrika


for those that dont know what it was:

The Republic of New Afrika (RNA), was an American social movement that proposed three objectives. First, the creation of an independent African-American-majority country situated in the southeastern United States. A similar claim is made for all the black-majority counties and cities throughout the United States.

The vision for this country was first promulgated on March 31, 1968, at a Black Government Conference held in Detroit, Michigan. Its proponents lay claim to five Southern states: (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina); and the black-majority counties adjacent to this area in Arkansas, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida.

I personally think its a great idea, for one of the reasons why those thats work against is a dependence on a system not ran controlled nor made to benefit us.

We dont need a soverign nation cause the the U.S. would react like we're trying to pull a coup. But concentrate the populations and build our own economic base.

Kind of how theres a Chinatown in every major city it allows us to build from within.

@Poitier what you think
 

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I was reading about a real life idea on this in the Republic of New Afrika

I personally think its a great idea, for one of the reasons why those thats work against is a dependence on a system not ran controlled nor made to benefit us.

We dont need a soverign nation cause the the U.S. would react like we're trying to pull a coup. But concentrate the populations and build our own economic base.

Kind of how theres a Chinatown in every major city it allows us to build from within.

@Poitier what you think

I love that idea. I've been saying we should take over The South and with the recent reverse Great Migration North to South and Georgia becoming a Purple state, it seems it can happen.

Of course, you still have Blacks too good for "The South"
 

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All of these statistics are in relation to living within white America. I highly doubt things would be this bad if we had to run our own country.

The economics. military and human development actually look promising.
 

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All of these statistics are in relation to living within white America. I highly doubt things would be this bad if we had to run our own country.
This. Things like the incarceration rate would drop. the new Black America would be swollen on pride no way we would let those same problems persist.
 

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Eh dumb study, this isn't taking into consideration the few hundred years of oppression "black America" had to go through so of course a lot of those rankings are going to be low
 

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I was reading about a real life idea on this in the Republic of New Afrika


for those that dont know what it was:



I personally think its a great idea, for one of the reasons why those thats work against is a dependence on a system not ran controlled nor made to benefit us.

We dont need a soverign nation cause the the U.S. would react like we're trying to pull a coup. But concentrate the populations and build our own economic base.

Kind of how theres a Chinatown in every major city it allows us to build from within.

@Poitier what you think
I do agree with a Chinatown equivalent for us AAs since this country clearly wants to still treat us as immigrants.
 

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Eh dumb study, this isn't taking into consideration the few hundred years of oppression "black America" had to go through so of course a lot of those rankings are going to be low

Thats not the point.
 
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All of these statistics are in relation to living within white America. I highly doubt things would be this bad if we had to run our own country.

The poverty part is hella stupid and it explains why its dumb all while still putting it on the info graph.

Most of the problems on this graph is due to lack of generational wealth, tbh.


Thats exactly the issue of nearly if not every single poor black nation in the world.

Whites come in an establish a regime that benefitted them, and exploited the masses, and soon as world pressure forced them to abandon slavery, they literally abandoned the country and it then plunged into poverty and chaos.

Truth be told if we were liberated and given a sovereign nation tomorrow, we'd most likely plunge into 3rd world status ourselves.
 
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