What if you woke up in 1821

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Depends where I was. I would take it easy. Most ppl lived relatively stress free...and not slaving lifestyles...lived simple lives
 

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well i have about $55 bucks in my pocket so ill go get some necessary tools for survival. first ill buy a horse, then a revolver and a rifle, then ill go the nearest saloon and buy a couple of shots of whisky and go upstairs with 2 fine whores and still have $30 left over for other needs.

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Please read this book. Ignore the fact that it's a woman on the cover, or that her husband is white. Both end up being very salient plot points which have significant effect on the past, that's worth reading -- even for white people who think they'd get off easy in antebellum US society.
 
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Depends where I was. I would take it easy. Most ppl lived relatively stress free...and not slaving lifestyles...lived simple lives
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Please read this book. It's nowhere near as classic as 'Kindred', the author has white supremacy issues which leak through here and there, and he's a literary thief who doesn't give acknowledgements about his thefts; but it's a cool adventure story and tells the truth about how hard it would be to survive without modern conveniences if you weren't used to living without them and there was no way possible to get access to them ever again unless you recreated those industries by scratch.

All that to say, to someone in 1821, we on the internet are living the simplest lives of all.
 
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well i have about $55 bucks in my pocket so ill go get some necessary tools for survival. first ill buy a horse, then a revolver and a rifle, then ill go the nearest saloon and buy a couple of shots of whisky and go upstairs with 2 fine whores and still have $30 left over for other needs.

:win:

Today:
Queen Elizabeth II is on all the British Commonwealth money. In the US, Grant's on the fifty, Andrew Jackson's on the twenty, Alexander Hamilton is on the ten, Lincoln is on the five, and Washington is on the one. None of the coins in our pockets are pure metal. And all the money has dates on it.

1821:
George IV just became king, after daddy George III died last year. His mama Charlotte is Paula Patton/Jennifer Beals/Lonette McKee/Dorothy Dandridge 'white'. George IV may or may not be a dikk. Victoria is two years old.

Grant is about to be conceived, and will be born next year. Jackson is a slaveowner who just defeated the Spanish and the Seminole and is now governor of Florida. Hamilton died 17 years ago. Lincoln is a 12 year old kid in Indiana raised by abolitionist Baptists, learning to bond with his dad's new wife, after mom died three years ago,and dad lost his fortune five years ago over some local political shyt. And Washington died 22 years ago.

There was apparently a whole psychology to money in the early US, one of the biggest of which was that no actual person should be on money, but concepts (like 'Columbia') was ok. They wanted a way to be different from Europe, and that was a huge enough difference.

US paper money as it's known today was a Civil War thing, 40 years in the future. People were most likely to carry coins in the US in 1821, not paper notes. Coins can be weighed and melted. What can you do with paper? What backs it? Anybody carrying Confederate paper money into 1821 is going to have the greatest time of all.

So you've got $55 in your pocket with pictures of people who shouldn't be on there (yet), but people don't trust paper money in the first place in the US in 1821, and there's no telling what the exchange rate would be if you palmed them off in another country. What do you do instead?

(All the information in this post is not gospel.)
 

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Today:
Queen Elizabeth II is on all the British Commonwealth money. In the US, Grant's on the fifty, Andrew Jackson's on the twenty, Alexander Hamilton is on the ten, Lincoln is on the five, and Washington is on the one. None of the coins in our pockets are pure metal. And all the money has dates on it.

1821:
George IV just became king, after daddy George III died last year. His mama Charlotte is Paula Patton/Jennifer Beals/Lonette McKee/Dorothy Dandridge 'white'. George IV may or may not be a dikk. Victoria is two years old.

Grant is about to be conceived, and will be born next year. Jackson is a slaveowner who just defeated the Spanish and the Seminole and is now governor of Florida. Hamilton died 17 years ago. Lincoln is a 12 year old kid in Indiana raised by abolitionist Baptists, learning to bond with his dad's new wife, after mom died three years ago,and dad lost his fortune five years ago over some local political shyt. And Washington died 22 years ago.

There was apparently a whole psychology to money in the early US, one of the biggest of which was that no actual person should be on money, but concepts (like 'Columbia') was ok. They wanted a way to be different from Europe, and that was a huge enough difference.

US paper money as it's known today was a Civil War thing, 40 years in the future. People were most likely to carry coins in the US in 1821, not paper notes. Coins can be weighed and melted. What can you do with paper? What backs it? Anybody carrying Confederate paper money into 1821 is going to have the greatest time of all.

So you've got $55 in your pocket with pictures of people who shouldn't be on there (yet), but people don't trust paper money in the first place in the US in 1821, and there's no telling what the exchange rate would be if you palmed them off in another country. What do you do instead?

:whoa:dont be ruining our time travel thread with logic :camby:

but in that case i might make some money being the world's greatest song writer and copy a bunch of songs i know by heart :obama:
 

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:whoa:dont be ruining our time travel thread with logic :camby:

but in that case i might make some money being the world's greatest song writer and copy a bunch of songs i know by heart :obama:


I like logic in time travel, though; which is why I can't stand Harry Turtledove. Dude thinks that replacing A with B is good enough. "Hey, let's make blond haired blue eyed people the slave race instead of blacks and Indians!' 'Hey! Aliens in World War II!' 'Hey! satyrs and centaurs in Constantinople!'

and then he doesn't do anything interesting with them. At least to me. I know plenty of people who think he's the shyt, though. But dumping white people down as slave race doesn't explain why they were chosen as the slave race, or what's happening in Africa and why nothing else changed except for that one small 'shock' point which isn't small at all.

Anyway, being the greatest songwriter reminds me of this painting:

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The ugly duchess. The joke the painter made is that everything she's wearing was fly as fukk -- 20, 30 years in her past. She's his Disco Stu. The joke for me is that it was painted so long ago I have no idea that she's supposed to be out of style, and that if I time travelled to 1413 instead of 1513 people would think she's weird in a different way, or even avant garde. Or dangerous to society. Or just wack.

So definitely, be Marty McFly. (Or the Thomas Edison of music, for a real life thief). Have a Plan B if your 1821 audience doesn't get your music, though, or want to string you up.
 
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