And what exactly are they trying to "conserve"?
What is a "Black Conservative"?
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Rout3r2035
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The tldr answer is
Yo
I legit never thought of this
Like no funny shyt this thread really made me think
Don't even get me started on the "Black liberal" thing, I will save that for another day.
But yeah, someone help me with this train of thought.
K.Dot
African American
the ideologies given to them from their oppressors.And what exactly are they trying to "conserve"?
AlainLocke
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Conservatism - Wikipedia
Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. Conservatives seek to preserve institutions like the Church, monarchy and the social hierarchy, as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".[1][2] The first established use of the term in a political context originated with François-René de Chateaubriand in 1818,[3] during the period of Bourbon restoration that sought to roll back the policies of the French Revolution. The term, historically associated with right-wing politics, has since been used to describe a wide range of views.
Conservatism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Conservatism and its modernising, anti-traditionalist rivals, liberalism and socialism, are the dominant political philosophies and ideologies of the post-Enlightenment era. Conservatives criticise their rivals for making a utopian exaggeration of the power of theoretical reason, and of human perfectibility. Conservative prescriptions are based on what they regard as experience rather than reason; for them, the ideal and the practical are inseparable. Most commentators regard conservatism as a modern political philosophy, even though it exhibits the standpoint of paternalism or authority, rather than freedom. As John Gray writes, while liberalism is the dominant political theory of the modern age, conservatism, despite appealing to tradition, is also a response to the challenges of modernity. The roots of all three standpoints “may be traced back to the crises of seventeenth-century England, but [they] crystallised into definite traditions of thought and practice only [after] the French Revolution” (Gray 1995: 78).
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Conservatism is about the rejection of modernity and progressive thought.....
Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. Conservatives seek to preserve institutions like the Church, monarchy and the social hierarchy, as they are, emphasizing stability and continuity, while others, called reactionaries, oppose modernism and seek a return to "the way things were".[1][2] The first established use of the term in a political context originated with François-René de Chateaubriand in 1818,[3] during the period of Bourbon restoration that sought to roll back the policies of the French Revolution. The term, historically associated with right-wing politics, has since been used to describe a wide range of views.
Conservatism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
Conservatism and its modernising, anti-traditionalist rivals, liberalism and socialism, are the dominant political philosophies and ideologies of the post-Enlightenment era. Conservatives criticise their rivals for making a utopian exaggeration of the power of theoretical reason, and of human perfectibility. Conservative prescriptions are based on what they regard as experience rather than reason; for them, the ideal and the practical are inseparable. Most commentators regard conservatism as a modern political philosophy, even though it exhibits the standpoint of paternalism or authority, rather than freedom. As John Gray writes, while liberalism is the dominant political theory of the modern age, conservatism, despite appealing to tradition, is also a response to the challenges of modernity. The roots of all three standpoints “may be traced back to the crises of seventeenth-century England, but [they] crystallised into definite traditions of thought and practice only [after] the French Revolution” (Gray 1995: 78).
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Conservatism is about the rejection of modernity and progressive thought.....
Black Conservatives often believe in traditional values like two parent home, conserving religious values, and are for businesses (mainly small/entrepreneurship). I use to be a Black Conservative years ago while I was finding myself. Some of those values I still have even though they toned down now. Like, I do believe in family & marriage.
My boy @CACtain Planet can give you a better explanation though.
My boy @CACtain Planet can give you a better explanation though.
Treblemaka
President, BYNKRadio.com (Retired)
Most black people are conservative.
- Not down with gays
- Don't like the goverment telling us what to do
- likes when America runs rip sh*t wild on everyone (except africa)
But we aren't racist so we aren't Republican.
- Not down with gays
- Don't like the goverment telling us what to do
- likes when America runs rip sh*t wild on everyone (except africa)
But we aren't racist so we aren't Republican.
Borrowed from another post:
The GOP is comprised of two distinctive groups. The fiscal conservatives are the ones who normally run the show: they're the ones who push for "starve the beast" policies, fewer corporate regulations and lower taxes on the rich, because unsurprisingly they're often rich. However, fiscal conservatism is actually pretty unpopular, for good reason. You can't build a party that's nationally successful on fiscal conservatism because not enough people want it.
This is where the second group comes in. These are the single-issue voters that the fiscal conservatives were able to wrangle onto their side: the evangelicals, the racists, the gun lovers, all people who feel very passionately about one particular topic and will vote Republican because the Republicans have positioned themselves as the party that supports those issues. These are called "wedge issues" because they split voters along ideological lines: even though the GOP's fiscal policies are bad for a poor white evangelical voter, they'll vote for the GOP anyway because they've positioned themselves as the only option to fight abortion, and they've cultivated abortion as being a more important issue to that voter than fiscal policy. This is the Republican base.
Black conservatives are those same people, but the ones who are either A) Uncle Toms or B) married to a wedge issue that they feel mirrors their values more than anything else.
The GOP is comprised of two distinctive groups. The fiscal conservatives are the ones who normally run the show: they're the ones who push for "starve the beast" policies, fewer corporate regulations and lower taxes on the rich, because unsurprisingly they're often rich. However, fiscal conservatism is actually pretty unpopular, for good reason. You can't build a party that's nationally successful on fiscal conservatism because not enough people want it.
This is where the second group comes in. These are the single-issue voters that the fiscal conservatives were able to wrangle onto their side: the evangelicals, the racists, the gun lovers, all people who feel very passionately about one particular topic and will vote Republican because the Republicans have positioned themselves as the party that supports those issues. These are called "wedge issues" because they split voters along ideological lines: even though the GOP's fiscal policies are bad for a poor white evangelical voter, they'll vote for the GOP anyway because they've positioned themselves as the only option to fight abortion, and they've cultivated abortion as being a more important issue to that voter than fiscal policy. This is the Republican base.
Black conservatives are those same people, but the ones who are either A) Uncle Toms or B) married to a wedge issue that they feel mirrors their values more than anything else.
Well, every Black Republican is NOT an Uncle Tom. That's not a fair assessment and yes I'm adding on.
Whos traditions are these that are being conserved? And when were these traditions started?
In the 1940's and 1950's the Black home was tighter from what I remember. Things started to get rough in the 70's. However, Blacks would attend church every Sunday and value education. Conservatism is conserving traditional values. That's basically what it is. For me, I was a moderate conservative until 2011.
economically, they make sense.And what exactly are they trying to "conserve"?
Socially, they might just be religious bigots.
But socially, they'll never approach what white conservatives value. Economically, sure.