What is Black British culture?

[AuntAnniesPretzels]

The elder generation yes. But then young generation under 35, quite the opposite.

Even among youth, AAs are more tolerant. We have openly gay AAs doing their thing in black communities, no way Africans allowing that

 

[Lost1]

Afrobeats and High life is derived from AA music.

100%.

afrobeats is definitely derived from African American music but for highlife that's not the case at all. Highlife really started in the 1800s, not the early 1900s, and the initial influence wasn't jazz. jazz was just a later more commercial twist on it but the initial style of high life wasn't based on jazz at all, but instead on the musical style of the Kru people

i argued this with illmatic delta along time ago in some topic that i forget about now, but i had to leave and focus on something work related and i forgot about the topic.

anyway, in that topic I wasn't getting through to illmatic delta that the articles he was citing, which were pretty shallow or superficial, were not giving an accurate picture of the origin of highlife. he was citing articles that claimed that highlife was strictly of ghanaian origin, which is false, and which ignored how its initial development came about long before the jazz elements were added by some groups later on.

if you want to know how highlife actually started, read this:

"The Early History of West African Highlife Music"

The Early History of West African Highlife Music on JSTOR

 

[Speaking Womanese]

The fact that you make an exception for Nigerians and Ghanaians, who make up the biggest population of Africans in the UK makes this whole post redundant.

Also, if I'm just going to immigrate to a country to make some money and then return home then I'm not going to be concerned with social issues too much. I'd just hustle, make my money, teach my kids to do the same and go back home. It seems harsh but this is what a lot of the Africans who you think 'kiss white people's arses' think.

It’s like that NOW.

Now all of them went back home Einstein.

My grandparents made stupid money here and went back home- they still made an effort which in turn, made it easier for us.

I made an exception to prove that the only two West African groups who made a SOCIAL EFFORT have socially prospered as opposed to the others.

East Africans (fOr ExAmPlE) were NOT and have NOT been treated the same way.

 

[Brer Dog]

Why do Black brits have inferior complex to African american culture when they copy our slang, style and want to get out on by AA singers or rappers? You nikkas have a nice thing in the UK but you guys try real hard to be down. It’s ridiculous. Stay in yo lane

You're AA?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

afrobeats is definitely derived from African American music but for highlife that's not the case at all. Highlife really started in the 1800s, not the early 1900s, and the initial influence wasn't jazz. jazz was just a later, more commercial twist on it, but the initial style of high life wasn't based on jazz at all, but instead on the musical style of the Kru people

i argued this with illmatic delta along time ago in some thread that i forget about now, but i had to leave and focus on something work related and i forgot about the thread.

anyway, in that thread I wasn't getting through to him (illmatic delta) that the articles he was citing, which were pretty shallow or superficial, were not giving an accurate picture of the origin of highlife. he was citing articles that claimed that highlife was strictly of ghanaian origin, which is false, and which ignored how its initial development came about long before the jazz elements were added by some groups later on.

if you want to know how highlife actually started, read this:

"The Early History of West African Highlife Music"

The Early History of West African Highlife Music on JSTOR

^^that's palmwine music. That + jazz = highlife music. It was fully explained in the video I posted

 

[Lost1]

^^that's palmwine music. That + jazz = highlife music. It was fully explained in the video I posted

I saw the video the first time in that thread from back then

but the people making the video are simply a little confused. some documentaries contain errors, it's natural

if you read the article I mentioned above you'll probably better understand the different styles of highlife that existed and how they emerged

people can have their own interpretation of the genre that they participated in of course

but it doesn't mean that they have the history of the genre automatically right

the style of highlife discussed in that video is something that came later like I said. highlife definitely existed before that

 

[Kasgoinjail]

High life, Fuji, that stuff bangs

 

[DaRealness]

We're disconnected from our culture? Right, OK. LOL. I'd answer that easily, but why bother.

There's a reason after 11 pages I deliberately haven't bothered to contribute to this thread and debate. For some of the names I did see popping up on the main page, I could probably type out word for word who is saying what with my eyes closed lol.

 

[null]

Negropeans are rootless and have identity issues, there's not enough of them and they're recent arrivals. they live a duality where they're British/French/Italian in a sense of growing up in someone elses culture but never truly being apart of it, while at the same time being too disconnected from their own African/Carribean heritage by virtue of being 'European'. Thats why they look to African Americans so much, it's the only black culture formed inside a white country.

Africans ain't disconnected bruv.

And ..

Slavery in Britain - Wikipedia

Black people in Liverpool - Wikipedia

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

It’s like that NOW.

Now all of them went back home Einstein.

My grandparents made stupid money here and went back home- they still made an effort which in turn, made it easier for us.

I made an exception to prove that the only two West African groups who made a SOCIAL EFFORT have socially prospered as opposed to the others.

East Africans (fOr ExAmPlE) were NOT and have NOT been treated the same way.

Do u like the uk

 

[Speaking Womanese]

Do u like the uk

In general? Yes.

The weather and the food piss me off the most.

 

[ZoeGod]

You're AA?

Haitian American from Brooklyn all I am saying is that AA culture is dominant worldwide and for whatever reason, black brits are the little brother and have a severe inferiority complex wanting to get noticed by big bro.

 

[DrHackenbush]

Negropeans are rootless and have identity issues, there's not enough of them and they're recent arrivals. they live a duality where they're British/French/Italian in a sense of growing up in someone elses culture but never truly being apart of it, while at the same time being too disconnected from their own African/Carribean heritage by virtue of being 'European'. Thats why they look to African Americans so much, it's the only black culture formed inside a white country.

How can American people (of all people) accuse people of being disconnected from their culture? You call yourselves "African Americans" yet probably 90% of you never even set foot on African soil. At best you might have an African grandparent or something, thats the closest you'll get to any ties back home.
Most African/West Indian people here in London are 1st generation, so growing up at home they ate African food, listened to African music etc. Its a big part of their identity. Not denying African American's influence on the World at all by the way, its definitely one of the dominant cultures when it comes to style, slang, music etc, but your culture is more American culture than "African American" culture

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How can American people (of all people) accuse people of being disconnected from their culture?

aframs are american and look within themselves/own culture for creativity.....they don't jack and appropriate from elsewhere, like some other's do

You call yourselves "African Americans" yet probably 90% of you never even set foot on African soil. At best you might have an African grandparent or something, thats the closest you'll get to any ties back home.

thats exactly why they're afroAMERICAN

Most African/West Indian people here in London are 1st generation, so growing up at home they ate African food, listened to African music etc. Its a big part of their identity.

If it's such a big part of that identify, then why the continuous search and jacking from elsewhere?

Not denying African American's influence on the World at all by the way, its definitely one of the dominant cultures when it comes to style, slang, music etc, but your culture is more American culture than "African American" culture

it's foundational to AMERICAN culture while being distinctly afroAMERICAN

 

[DrHackenbush]

If it's such a big part of that identify, they why the continuous search and jacking from elsewhere?

I'm not gonna deny that American culture plays a massive influence over here in the UK but some people in here are acting like thats all there is to UK black culture, a poor imitation of what America is doing. But thats not it. I grew up around West Indians, Africans, Asians etc and although the influence from American culture was there from the music etc they maintained a strong connection to their own cultures too