What is Natural Scorer and Scoring Mentality?

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looks like people are confused with having a "scoring mentality" and being a "natural scorer".


natural scorers can score with easy in a multitude of ways and make it look easy regardless of what the defense is doing.

a scoring mentality is aggressively attacking the defense to put up point as that's what you think your view is on the offense.


players that have a scoring mentality aren't always natural scorers(kemba) and natural scorers always don't have a scoring mentality(lebron).

see i get what you're saying but i disagree with lebron. i dont think lebron is a natural scorer. he depends on athleticism and doesnt have a money jump shot
 

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see i get what you're saying but i disagree with lebron. i dont think lebron is a natural scorer. he depends on athleticism and doesnt have a money jump shot

Lebrons value as a scorer seems to be his awareness of what he knows he's really good at and knowing his limitations. Kobe just puts up shots regardless it seems. It worked earlier in his career but obviously it hurts he Lakers now. Rose too.
 

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Sounds like the type that can get hot quickly. Automatic offense off the bench cold or that starter that sets the tone early on. Doesn't have to rely on getting to the stripe for points and demands extra attention from defenses. You can go ahead and book 25-30 before tip-off for these types. Kobe?:childplease: MJ?:mjlol:

Naturals scorers are just small pieces of the game to guys like them because of their uncoachable talents.
 

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Sounds like the type that can get hot quickly. Automatic offense off the bench cold or that starter that sets the tone early on. Doesn't have to rely on getting to the stripe for points and demands extra attention from defenses. You can go ahead and book 25-30 before tip-off for these types. Kobe?:childplease: MJ?:mjlol:

Naturals scorers are just small pieces of the game to guys like them because of their uncoachable talents.

not sure because jamal crawford and lou williams can get hot. but i wouldnt call them natural scorers. those guys can also shoot you out the gym. think of guys who have no holes in their offensive game. post up, drive, hit the 3, go left or right. money jumper
 

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The fact that he's not as athletic as Bron (most humans aren't) doesn't mean Melo isn't athletic and dependent on said athleticism. nikkas tried to push that "Kobe does it all with skill" shyt for years and now that his athleticism is all but gone and the skills are still there we are seeing the reality. nikkas don't retire or fall off because they run out of skill.



"Natural scorer" is nothing more than another means of trying to hype or distinguish a guy when his production doesn't do so. No different than "pure" this or that.

melo's game isnt athletic at all. im talking about his game
 

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melo's game isnt athletic at all. im talking about his game

Which requires his body to execute. You can't separate a person's game from their physical tools as their game is contingent on those tools. You put Melo's game into a 5'10 nikka with average athleticism and his ass will naturally be at he local LA Fitness getting it in on open run.
 

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Which requires his body to execute. You can't separate a person's game from their physical tools as their game is contingent on those tools. You put Melo's game into a 5'10 nikka with average athleticism and his ass will naturally be at he local LA Fitness getting it in on open run.

so paul pierce is athletic? i think him and melo are the same type of scorers. brandon roy wasnt athletic either.
 

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"Natural scorer" To me it's people that have god-given fundamentals. Once example of a guy like that with a lot of potential to be an elite scorer is Jeremy Lamb. Doug McDermott is another guy I think of with potential to be an elite scorer from fundamentals alone.

Scoring mentality to me is just a very aggressive and sometimes delusional scorer think your Jamal Crawfords and Lou Williams
 

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melo's game isnt athletic at all. im talking about his game

Other than the 7 foot stiffs and guys that literally shoot like 99-percent from three in practice, everyone at the professional level is a better athlete than 99-percent of the planet. Everyone in the league is an elite athlete
 

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so paul pierce is athletic? i think him and melo are the same type of scorers. brandon roy wasnt athletic either.

What I said applies to everybody. Of course levels of athleticism vary but everybody's game is based upon and dependent on their respective level of athleticism. Beyond that, the term "natural" implies something that is innate and cannot be taught. Thusly guys that are more athletic or have better instincts would be greater examples of a "natural" something than guys that have more refined ie worked on ie not natural skills. The whole concept is silly anyway though. :yeshrug:.
 

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do you think people just wake up with post games and perfect jump shots. :what:
Yes, the keyword there being natural, meaning scoring comes naturally to them. They don't have to spend multiple off season to develop a basic jumpshot. Griffin is a natural athlete, but almost all of his pts came off of dunks early in his career.
 

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so paul pierce is athletic? i think him and melo are the same type of scorers. brandon roy wasnt athletic either.

Yes. Watch Pierce's footwork. Watch his ability to use leverage to create angles and space. You can't be unathletic to execute the moves he used to make and sometimes still does.
 

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IMO a natural scorer is someone who can create his own bucket in any fashion. Drive, 3 pointer, mid range, pull up, post, face up. He's a finisher as well.
This is what I've always thought of as a natural scorer. Somebody who you can just give the ball to anywhere and they can go get you buckets. They may have certain areas of the game where they are better at scoring but in reality they can get you buckets from anywhere. Another trait of it is you don't necessarily know how they're going to attack you on offense because they have so many ways of scoring.

A thing I think separates a Lebron (whose a smart scorer who mostly sticks to his offensive strengths since you can't stop it) versus a Durant, Melo, prime Kobe.
 
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