What is the point of a law?

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Again...You can get individual punishment from breaking mores, such a community approval if a parent disowns their children for dating outside their race, but that more became law, in America, for a good period of time, with a definite set punishment.
 

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They can but the dictionary says otherwise
I can call a pig a law, but that does not make it so
there are very important distinctions

No offense, but if you think that legal intepretivism is as self-evidently incorrect as "calling a pig a law" then you probably need to fall back and do more research before having this discussion.
 

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No, I stand as spoken.
What would you consider proof that laws are not made from mores?
Citizens united?
Gay marriage? pre or post 21st century?
Tax havens?
Citigroup authoring laws to get bailouts?
Corporations literally writing laws to fatten their pockets?
 

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The problem with this discussion is that, outside of science, there is no such thing as an universal set of laws. Social laws are based from experience and interpretation.

I could totally see a society where rape was legal, but exposure to other cultures, or a change in power dynamics, empathy, or near destruction of that society forced them to make or change that law.
 

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Again...You can get individual punishment from breaking mores, such a community approval if a parent disowns their children for dating outside their race, but that more became law, in America, for a good period of time, with a definite set punishment.
so you yourself in this statement are making at last one distinction between law and mores
at the least we can agree that a caterpillar is not a butterfly...at the least...the very least
 

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so you yourself in this statement are making at last one distinction between law and mores
at the least we can agree that a caterpillar is not a butterfly...at the least...the very least
But the butterfly comes from the catepillar, always.
 

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but one is no longer the other and they are not interchangeable...at the very least
They are still the same creature, just at different stages of development. Nothing but what we've called them, and their abilities, have really changed.
 
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