Mortal1
Superstar
I picked Me Against The World with Makaveli being second.
What is TUPAC'S BEST LP?????????
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Rapmastermind
Superstar
20 Years Later. Has your feelings changed? "Me Against The World" still gets my vote.
Mac Casper
@adonnis - pull up, there's refreshments
There's a valid debate for either of his last 3 albums being the GOAT hip-hop album depending on your criteria
If your GOAT album is in the range of mainstream/diversity that culminates in a masterpiece for commercial consumption you're going with All Eyez on Me
If your GOAT album criteria depends more on personal introspection you're going with Me Against the World
If your GOAT album criteria is centered on deep songwriting with range and depth that greatly exceeds any of what hip-hop has to offer while presented in a thematic approach you'd go with The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory
edit: interestingly I just placed my votes and saw the results do reflect this absolutely with 100% of the votes being in the range of these 3 albums, either of them has a valid case depending on the criteria you set so it's not even a debatable subject unless you offer insight into your criteria and evaluate the criteria of others
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makaveli and then RUSD
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
I really can't choose.I love em all.If I choose just one, I feel like I'm cheating on the other two.
I'm keeping it polygamous and staying married to all three
I'm keeping it polygamous and staying married to all three
I picked 2Pacalypse Now.
I loved his social commentary on that album. First rap album i ever bought, so it holds a special place in my heart.
His best line ever came from this album too.
"This is a lesson to the rednecks & crooked cops. You fukk wit real nikkaz, get yo fukkin ass dropped"
I loved his social commentary on that album. First rap album i ever bought, so it holds a special place in my heart.
His best line ever came from this album too.
"This is a lesson to the rednecks & crooked cops. You fukk wit real nikkaz, get yo fukkin ass dropped"
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
I picked 2Pacalypse Now.
I loved his social commentary on that album. First rap album i ever bought, so it holds a special place in my heart.
His best line ever came from this album too.
"This is a lesson to the rednecks & crooked cops. You fukk wit real nikkaz, get yo fukkin ass dropped"
Kills me when niccaz try to claim it's not a classic
Truth!!!
nikkaz like to criticize the production, but i loved everything about the album.
Pac truly was an amazing artist. He didnt try to hit u wit metaphors or anything like that. His lyrics were like he was havin a convo wit the listener
FreddyHampton
Rookie
I have to say Makaveli. Even he didn't get to fulfill his vision it seems extremely focused and packed tightly.With the 16th (Wow I'm getting Old) Anniversary of Pac's death approaching. I thought we take a look back at his iconic Legendary Catalog. Tupac music is why he is the Legend he is today. Fans from all walks of life all across the world loved his honesty, his anger, his emotions and yes even sometimes when he was hypocritical. Tupac started his career out as more of a conscious emcee. Rapping about the community and the problems in it. As he grew he would get more gangsta but always leave that conscious element in. With statues in different parts of the world, and music put in the Library of Congress, and sales that compete with some of the biggest acts in music history not just Hip Hop. Tupac Legacy is still strong as ever. Tupac completed 6 LP's before his death and many others would be released after. This post is about his LP not his compilations like "Thug Life, Still I Raise or Greatest Hits". Which one is the best to you?
Makaveli The don 
Mac Casper
@adonnis - pull up, there's refreshments
I understand this will be a controversial point of view and it might be hard to stomach but there really isn't even close to a comparison between the level that Tupac's quality reaches compared to the standard of a regular classic
If you compare the Makaveli album to Eric B. and Rakim's Paid In Full" - the first archetype for the classic standard, Tupac added purpose and depth to the content and relegates the classic status of Paid in Full to a basis in nostalgia and the invention is credited for
If you compare the Makaveli album to Dr. Dre's The Chronic - and you don't need to count out the fact that Tupac made the album in less than a week with a room of producers that he had never worked with before and were known as the "wack room" . . he took them and made a classic product that could never be recreated. Dr. Dr. Dre works with a cast of who's who in his public circle, we've been lied to all these years that Dr. Dre and Snoop are like Cheech and Chong or Mario and Luigi but in reality they can only tolerate spending time with each other on a limited basis. Dr. Dre also employs a band of producers, there's usually someone in control of every individual category of the production. He'll work with these people for years and come up with an album that although groundbreaking and pioneering it's clear that both of his albums have forgiven filler tracks
Now you compare the content to the Makaveli album and that's where you get the real separation. You could only get an album out of someone who studied Shakespeare, Donald Goines, etc. Probably the only album worthy of an movie in itself. There's drama, betrayal, deceit . . thought provoking perspective and deep introspection.
If you compare the Makaveli album to Eric B. and Rakim's Paid In Full" - the first archetype for the classic standard, Tupac added purpose and depth to the content and relegates the classic status of Paid in Full to a basis in nostalgia and the invention is credited for
If you compare the Makaveli album to Dr. Dre's The Chronic - and you don't need to count out the fact that Tupac made the album in less than a week with a room of producers that he had never worked with before and were known as the "wack room" . . he took them and made a classic product that could never be recreated. Dr. Dr. Dre works with a cast of who's who in his public circle, we've been lied to all these years that Dr. Dre and Snoop are like Cheech and Chong or Mario and Luigi but in reality they can only tolerate spending time with each other on a limited basis. Dr. Dre also employs a band of producers, there's usually someone in control of every individual category of the production. He'll work with these people for years and come up with an album that although groundbreaking and pioneering it's clear that both of his albums have forgiven filler tracks
Now you compare the content to the Makaveli album and that's where you get the real separation. You could only get an album out of someone who studied Shakespeare, Donald Goines, etc. Probably the only album worthy of an movie in itself. There's drama, betrayal, deceit . . thought provoking perspective and deep introspection.
I use to answer this easily saying its MATW
but 7 day theory is creeping up as my fav
Pac was on point in every way on that album.
The great Lyricism + flows+ delievery + charisma + concept+ songwriting + production+ = 7 day theory
the only flaw I have on that album was the prescence of the outlaws I would have preferred Pac to be solo on Bomb first and Just like Daddy
but 7 day theory is creeping up as my fav
Pac was on point in every way on that album.
The great Lyricism + flows+ delievery + charisma + concept+ songwriting + production+ = 7 day theory
the only flaw I have on that album was the prescence of the outlaws I would have preferred Pac to be solo on Bomb first and Just like Daddy
forever pac
Rapmastermind
Superstar
Nice breakdown. "All Eyez on Me" was him at his commerical apex. "Makaveli" might be him at his Lyrical Apex and "Me against the World" is him at his introspective Apex. Though some people would argue he was most introspective on his first two albums. It's just musically his last 3 are better than his first 2 plus all the controversy happen during that period so most people gravitate towards those albums. To dropped those 3 albums in the span of 1 years and half was unreal. But I find myself going back to "Me Against The World' because that was the best Pac to me. Both hard on the bars but still introspectively political with amazing production. The Death Row era might be his most popular but I think him going double platinum off "Me Against The World" while he was in jail and couldn't promote it properly was more of a testament to his impact and importance. Also "Dear Mama" is still probably his most important record of his career.