What is up with this "SJW" thing? It's become beyond annoying.

[AnonymityX1000]

Origin doesn't matter, connotations matter. The far right has turned SJW into a term meant to attack even the idea of caring about justice on a social level. Even if you only used the term against the ones you think really "deserved" it, whoever hears/reads you won't know that.

And, like @-19 said, it's an insult, not a critique.

If it is used consistently in manner I see fit how wouldn't those who hear/read it not catch on?
And if I'm speaking on an issue that I think is unfair and needs changing and someone says I'm an SJW I wouldn't take it as an insult. Insults can be subjective .

 

[mastermind]

It can be taken too far tho. When we got women talking about their agency being taken away because someone disagreed with them. Or being labeled sexist because you support a male
candidate over a female. Or talking about trans rights a lot when their are less than 100K of them in the country.

The term SJW is not a critique of an idea. It’s an insult and the insult has only one meaning, to demean anyone who is advocating for better treatment of marginalized people.

Using it shows you are sympathetic to the racist right’s cause.

You can critique someone who thinks disagreeing with a woman is sexist without insulting them and using terms like that.

 

[Cadillac]

the constant SJW complaints is cacs mad, because today is not how it was when there Grandparents were alive Where they can say anything and get away with it.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

How does a word get a 'complex history' if we try and police who should and shouldn't use it? If we don't like how it is currently used, why not co-opt it for a different purpose? Sound familiar?
And is it impossible to care too much about a marganilized group? And some people don't twist real sexist/racist/homophobic issues to their own personal benefit?

if we actually co-opted it then we would use it to positively describe people. we wouldnt use it to insult people in the same way the alt-right does.
theres plenty of ways to criticize someones ideas and arguments about inequality and opression in the US without resorting to an alt right talking point.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

if we actually co-opted it then we would use it to positively describe people. we wouldnt use it to insult people in the same way the alt-right does.
theres plenty of ways to criticize someones ideas and arguments about inequality and opression in the US without resorting to an alt right talking point.

And there's more than one way to co-opt a word it doesn't have to be positive. You just made that up.

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

And there's more than one way to co-opt a word it doesn't have to be positive. You just made that up.

give me a good historic example of an oppressed group co-opting an oppressor's insult while keeping it negative.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

give me a good historic example of an oppressed group co-opting an oppressor's insult while keeping it negative.

Bedwench.

 

[Geek Nasty]

For the last couple years, it seems like you can barely go on Youtube or the Internet in general without some clown whining about so-called SJWs for no reason. As far as I can tell it's become a catchall term for basically anything focusing on minorities or women.

So where did this come from? Is it a gamergate thing? Some sort of overreaction to demographic change? Something right-wing trolls brought into the mainstream?


I'm hoping it's just a trend because it's gotten really tiresome in the Trump era.

Some of you guys have a very different opinion I see, IMO it was a result of the overreaction by the pro-feminist women's rights movements. It started happening with all those fake rape accusations where even after women were outted for lying you'd have pundits making excuses. shytting on SJWs is the same as dropping a on a clown post.

As for gamergate, that was again people reacting to some workplace thot who fukked her way into a position she had no business being in, then when she didn't get the accolades she thought she deserved people went at her. In the mainstream media that turned into "Female programmer attacked by male colleagues in a largely sexist industry" with no context on why people were pissed at her. Now, maybe some alt-right people gravitated to it, but it had nothing to do with the rise of the alt-right.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

give me a good historic example of an oppressed group co-opting an oppressor's insult while keeping it negative.

Bedwench.

 

[Nuke Dukem]

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Some of you guys have a very different opinion I see, IMO it was a result of the overreaction by the pro-feminist women's rights movements. It started happening with all those fake rape accusations where even after women were outted for lying you'd have pundits making excuses. shytting on SJWs is the same as dropping a on a clown post.

As for gamergate, that was again people reacting to some workplace thot who fukked her way into a position she had no business being in, then when she didn't get the accolades she thought she deserved people went at her. In the mainstream media that turned into "Female programmer attacked by male colleagues in a largely sexist industry" with no context on why people were pissed at her. Now, maybe some alt-right people gravitated to it, but it had nothing to do with the rise of the alt-right.

"Gamergate.....had nothing to do with the alt-right"???



Gamergate is LITERALLY the birth of what we all collectively now refer to as the Alt-Right as a presence online.

I'm not even gonna argue or debate the merits of how the whole controversy started, but to deny that the concerted online efforts of trolling, harrassment, memes, doxxing, etc. were weaponized by a racist and sexist movement that morphed into a quasi-political ideology, having it's distinct origins in Gamergate is just patently false.

Gamergate is to the Alt-right what Fort Sumpter was to the Civil War.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

It can be taken too far tho. When we got women talking about their agency being taken away because someone disagreed with them. Or being labeled sexist because you support a male
candidate over a female. Or talking about trans rights a lot when their are less than 100K of them in the country.

THIS

 

[Serious]

I feel the same way when idiots cry about political correctness. What the fukk is so hard about properly addressing an issue without coming off offensive.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Pretty much if you aren't a piece of shyt morally your a SJW. I've never heard anyone use the term in real life.

 

[Geek Nasty]

"Gamergate.....had nothing to do with the alt-right"???



Gamergate is LITERALLY the birth of what we all collectively now refer to as the Alt-Right as a presence online.

I'm not even gonna argue or debate the merits of how the whole controversy started, but to deny that the concerted online efforts of trolling, harrassment, memes, doxxing, etc. were weaponized by a racist and sexist movement that morphed into a quasi-political ideology, having it's distinct origins in Gamergate is just patently false.

Gamergate is to the Alt-right what Fort Sumpter was to the Civil War.

Think about what you're saying. A story about a girl fukking her way to the top started on-line white supremacy?