What is your stance on a household with multiple wives? *video added*

[JasonSJackson]

1 Corinthians 7:2

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

How do you define fornication?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

How do you define fornication?

Fornication
Definition harlotry (including adultery and incest); the act of a harlot indulge unlawful lust

You have to go to the OT to see what the laws are regarding sex. Jesus also said in the NT

Matthew 5:27-28
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Moses said its a sin to sleep with another man's wife. Jesus said the same AND when you wish you could sleep with a lady you are actually doing the act. Even though you are not physically doing it, your soul is doing it and you will have the same judgement in the end (hell).

 

[JasonSJackson]

Fornication
Definition harlotry (including adultery and incest); the act of a harlot indulge unlawful lust

You have to go to the OT to see what the laws are regarding sex. Jesus also said in the NT

Matthew 5:27-28
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Moses said its a sin to sleep with another man's wife. Jesus said the same AND when you wish you could sleep with a lady you are actually doing the act. Even though you are not physically doing it, your soul is doing it and you will have the same judgement in the end (hell).

How would multiple wives fit into that definition?

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I never could get with that show Sister Wives them chicks share their man but they all have to work and had to pay for their own houses. Idk if dude even has a job. Like wtf is that? Nah if dude could afford to have them thats cool but broke dudes would loose so hard. The simp culture would blow up. Ya'll better be careful what you wish for.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

How would multiple wives fit into that definition?

We have some brothers that already have a wife at home and they are out trying to holla at other women to make them their wives. You shouldn't be all in another woman's face if you have your wife according to 1 Corinthians 7:2. Multiple wives was lawful in the time of the OT, and it will be in the kingdom as well. But according to Christ we off that right now. More evidence

1 Timothy 3:2
bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

 

[JasonSJackson]

1 Timothy 3:2
bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Seems that rule applies specifically to bishops and deacons

also, what scriptures attributed to Jesus expressly condemn multiple wives?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Seems that rule applies specifically to bishops and deacons

also, what scriptures attributed to Jesus expressly condemn multiple wives?

Every Israelite man today is a Bishop or deacon. The word means "overseer or teacher". Each one of us are commanded to teach each other and build this kingdom.

This is Jesus condemning multiple wives.
1 Corinthians 7:2

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

wife is singular, husband is singluar. He clearly said a man have his OWN wife.

 

[JasonSJackson]

Every Israelite man today is a Bishop or deacon. The word means "overseer or teacher". Each one of us are commanded to teach each other and build this kingdom.

This is Jesus condemning multiple wives.
1 Corinthians 7:2

Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

wife is singular, husband is singluar. He clearly said a man have his OWN wife.

Paul is attributed with writing the Corinthian letters correct?

also, 1 Corinthians 7:1 states Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Do you agree that it is good for a man not to touch a woman?

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Paul is attributed with writing the Corinthian letters correct?

also, 1 Corinthians 7:1 states Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Do you agree that it is good for a man not to touch a woman?

Excuse me you are correct. Paul and Timothy knew we should only have one wife because that is what Christ taught. This is Jesus regarding multiple wives.

Matthew 19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judæa beyond Jordan; 2 and great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

 

[JasonSJackson]

Excuse me you are correct. This is Jesus regarding multiple wives

Matthew 19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judæa beyond Jordan; 2 and great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

I don't see where this specifically condemns having multiple wives.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

I don't see where this specifically condemns having multiple wives.

Man is singular, wife is single. The word twain means come together. Jesus is saying 1 man shall have 1 wife and they shall become 1 family and create kids. If Jesus wouldn't have a problem with multiple wives the scripture would have went like this. For this cause shall a man leave father and mother and and cleave on to his wives; and they twain shall be one flesh. But it doesn't. It said a man shall cleave to his wife. SINGULAR FORM. If you don't understand subject form vs plural form then its gonna be hard to see where Jesus said "you can't have multiple wives". Jesus is not coming down here to give options. If he tells you to have one wife you would be a fool to play games and say "i didn't hear him say we can't have more than one". Just do what he said do. And he said a man get a wife.

 

[newworldafro]

1 Man + 1 Woman.... thats how it should be...

I'll say again, I'm no Bible Zealot, but I respect what religion brings to the table, nonetheless there likely is a higher power..........there is my ambiguous religious/spirituality stance (No Confuso)

Anyway.....

http://www.gotquestions.org/polygamy.html

Question: "Why did God allow polygamy / bigamy in the Bible?"

Answer:The question of polygamy is an interesting one in that most people today view polygamy as immoral while the Bible nowhere explicitly condemns it. The first instance of polygamy/bigamy in the Bible was that of Lamech inGenesis 4:19: “Lamech married two women.” Several prominent men in the Old Testament were polygamists. Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and others all had multiple wives. In2 Samuel 12:8, God, speaking through the prophet Nathan, said that if David’s wives and concubines were not enough, He would have given David even more. Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines (essentially wives of a lower status), according to1 Kings 11:3. What are we to do with these instances of polygamy in the Old Testament? There are three questions that need to be answered: 1) Why did God allow polygamy in the Old Testament? 2) How does God view polygamy today? 3) Why did it change?

1) Why did God allow polygamy in the Old Testament? The Bible does not specifically say why God allowed polygamy. As we speculate about God’s silence, there are a few key factors to consider. First, while there are slightly more male babies than female babies, due to women having longer lifespans, there have always been more women in the world than men. Current statistics show that approximately 50.5 percent of the world population are women. Assuming the same percentages in ancient times, and multiplied by millions of people, there would be tens of thousands more women than men. Second, warfare in ancient times was especially brutal, with an incredibly high rate of fatality. This would have resulted in an even greater percentage of women to men. Third, due to patriarchal societies, it was nearly impossible for an unmarried woman to provide for herself. Women were often uneducated and untrained. Women relied on their fathers, brothers, and husbands for provision and protection. Unmarried women were often subjected to prostitution and slavery. The significant difference between the number of women and men would have left many, many women in an undesirable situation.

So, it seems that God may have allowed polygamy to protect and provide for the women who could not find a husband otherwise. A man would take multiple wives and serve as the provider and protector of all of them. While definitely not ideal, living in a polygamist household was far better than the alternatives: prostitution, slavery, or starvation. In addition to the protection/provision factor, polygamy enabled a much faster expansion of humanity, fulfilling God’s command to “be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth” (Genesis 9:7). Men are capable of impregnating multiple women in the same time period, causing humanity to grow much faster than if each man was only producing one child each year.

2) How does God view polygamy today? Even while allowing polygamy, the Bible presents monogamy as the plan which conforms most closely to God’s ideal for marriage. The Bible says that God’s original intention was for one man to be married to only one woman: “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [not wives], and they will become one flesh [not fleshes]” (Genesis 2:24). WhileGenesis 2:24is describing what marriage is, rather than how many people are involved, the consistent use of the singular should be noted. InDeuteronomy 17:14-20, God says that the kings were not supposed to multiply wives (or horses or gold). While this cannot be interpreted as a command that the kings must be monogamous, it can be understood as declaring that having multiple wives causes problems. This can be clearly seen in the life of Solomon (1 Kings 11:3-4).

In the New Testament,1 Timothy 3:2,12andTitus 1:6give “the husband of one wife” in a list of qualifications for spiritual leadership. There is some debate as to what specifically this qualification means. The phrase could literally be translated “a one-woman man.” Whether or not this phrase is referring exclusively to polygamy, in no sense can a polygamist be considered a “one-woman man.” While these qualifications are specifically for positions of spiritual leadership, they should apply equally to all Christians. Should not all Christians be “above reproach...temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money” (1 Timothy 3:2-4)? If we are called to be holy (1 Peter 1:16), and if these standards are holy for elders and deacons, then they are holy for all.

Ephesians 5:22-33speaks of the relationship between husbands and wives. When referring to a husband (singular), it always also refers to a wife (singular). “For the husband is the head of the wife [singular] … He who loves his wife [singular] loves himself. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [singular], and the two will become one flesh....Each one of you also must love his wife [singular] as he loves himself, and the wife [singular] must respect her husband [singular].” While a somewhat parallel passage,Colossians 3:18-19, refers to husbands and wives in the plural, it is clear that Paul is addressing all the husbands and wives among the Colossian believers, not stating that a husband might have multiple wives. In contrast,Ephesians 5:22-33is specifically describing the marital relationship. If polygamy were allowable, the entire illustration of Christ’s relationship with His body (the church) and the husband-wife relationship falls apart.

3) Why did it change? It is not so much God’s disallowing something He previously allowed as it is God’s restoring marriage to His original plan. Even going back to Adam and Eve, polygamy was not God’s original intent. God seems to have allowed polygamy to solve a problem, but it is not the ideal. In most modern societies, there is absolutely no need for polygamy. In most cultures today, women are able to provide for and protect themselves—removing the only “positive” aspect of polygamy. Further, most modern nations outlaw polygamy. According toRomans 13:1-7, we are to obey the laws the government establishes. The only instance in which disobeying the law is permitted by Scripture is if the law contradicts God’s commands (Acts 5:29). Since God only allows for polygamy, and does not command it, a law prohibiting polygamy should be upheld.

Are there some instances in which the allowance for polygamy would still apply today? Perhaps, but it is unfathomable that there would be no other possible solution. Due to the “one flesh” aspect of marriage, the need for oneness and harmony in marriage, and the lack of any real need for polygamy, it is our firm belief that polygamy does not honor God and is not His design for marriage.

 

[Nemesis]

Here's a portion of a conversation me and a sister had where she shared her perspective on the topic



what are your thoughts?

my Dads younger brother has four wives.... my Dads a Christian while his brother is a muslim.....

four wives ,four different houses...... he also has numerous girlfriends and my mom once banned him from our house because he got caught fukking the maid....

hes my favourite uncle.....

I wouldnt wish his life on my worst enemy

 

[iBrowse]

if women are on board with it, i dont see the problem. just going to suck for a lot of dudes when hundreds of women line up to be wealthy men.

 

[iBrowse]

nikka you're not a lion

Jk but seriously it wouldn't work out. Men like jay z and Kanye west would have 10-20 wives and you regular coli nikkas would have nothing. There aren't enough women to go around for a man to have more than one. Sorry brehs

rawr