What makes Cacklemore different than the flood of white underground acts of the late 90's/early 00's

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who cares about white people ... this is hiphop

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Hip-hop is run by and made primarily for white people.

Around the late 90's and the early part of this century, you saw a bunch of white mostly suburban hipster type rappers flood the independent scene and kinda turn it into :mjpls: status. Anticon, Slug and Rhyme Sayers, etc...I can't remember half of their names. That whiting out of the underground scene contributed a lot to its dying down. Traditional "backpackers" thought the music was corny and didn't want to go to shows where the whole audience and the artists look like comic book store employees.

But Cacklemore doesn't seem any different from any of them. And he's old as fukk...he could've came out around that time. Now he's blowing up. Why not Sole or Madchild or Slug or any of the other 1,000 former whiggers who turned into faux artsy intellectual rappers?

It's probably just timing. That niche opened up and became viable for crossover, which it wasn't back then, and one of the many white rappers in that lane had to make it through.
 

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Timing, and his singles were safe as fukk. His single progressed at the perfect time at the perfect pace as well too; remember Asher Roths single blew up but people got sick of it. Not to mention the song had one hit wonder all over it; Macklemore came with a affable follow up single at a perfect time, and the radio, as well as social media and advertisers everywhere, jumped on with e quickness.
 

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He reminds me a lot of some of those Anticon dudes, Sage Francis, Slug, etc...especially Slug. But yeah I guess he came at the right time and he crossed over. A lot of those other white underground rappers were too caught up in being underground and trying to embody hip-hop to try and cross over.

You just answered your question...you would never catch them EC cacs doing songs like "thrift shop", dude has been doing his atmosphere routine long enough to get a little following and he went ahead and "sold out".

Any of those cats COULD have made attempts to do the same, but they were either comfortable in their lane or too afraid to lose the little following they did have in the chance that it didn't work out. They eat off that niche, and as you can see any artist that crosses over from underground will lose the bulk of their fanbase as soon as it's no longer kitch and cute to like the guy nobody knows about.
 
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You just answered your question...you would never catch them EC cacs doing songs like "thrift shop", dude has been doing his atmosphere routine long enough to get a little following and he went ahead and "sold out".

Any of those cats COULD have made attempts to do the same, but they were either comfortable in their lane or too afraid to lose the little following they did have in the chance that it didn't work out. They eat off that niche, and as you can see any artist that crosses over from underground will lose the bulk of their fanbase as soon as it's no longer kitch and cute to like the guy nobody knows about.
Macklemore has been making songs like he has on the Heist forever. "The Town" "My Oh My" same general style... He's independent, I'm pretty sure he didn't "sell out" he just marketed himself well and got lucky.
 

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Around the late 90's and the early part of this century, you saw a bunch of white mostly suburban hipster type rappers flood the independent scene and kinda turn it into :mjpls: status. Anticon, Slug and Rhyme Sayers, etc...I can't remember half of their names. That whiting out of the underground scene contributed a lot to its dying down. Traditional "backpackers" thought the music was corny and didn't want to go to shows where the whole audience and the artists look like comic book store employees.

But Cacklemore doesn't seem any different from any of them. And he's old as fukk...he could've came out around that time. Now he's blowing up. Why not Sole or Madchild or Slug or any of the other 1,000 former whiggers who turned into faux artsy intellectual rappers?

he put out music back then

 

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I absolutely hate Macklemore's awkward "rhyme-talking, but not really rapping" flow.

Dude is basically the male Ke$ha. Only difference is Ke$ha sings her own hooks. :shaq2:
 

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Hip-hop is run by and made primarily for white people.
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but... :manny:, Hip Hop lost that pro-black edge to it and to me that's when it started to fall off and become wack; dudes out here looking like stereotypical caractures of what black people look like to racist on some minstrel shyt but not so flagrant.
 

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:comeon:

Hip-hop is run by and made primarily for white people.
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That is very untrue. Commercial rap is made for white people. Regular hip-hop songs aren't. You think Trinidad James went into the studio to record "All Black Everything" for white people to love :childplease:

Rappers put out street singles/bangers for white people :rudy:

Rappers use white slangs constantly to relate to white people:wtf:

White people are large consumers of the genre due to their large population but the music is in no way tailored to them.
 
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