What makes Kanye a Genius ???

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Yeah.... duh!

If u can make beats that resonates with millions upon millions for decades like Rza, Marley, Dr. Dre, Quick, Dilla, Kanye, Just Blaze, Alchemist ect....Which is something not every man or the average man can do......Then yeah u fall in the category of genius.

I mean dope ass artists sure. Legends of hip hop sure. But geniuses? I dunno, it's just a word that's thrown around too much IMO. If everybody's a genius, then nobody's a genius, you know what I'm sayin?
 

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I mean dope ass artists sure. Legends of hip hop sure. But geniuses? I dunno, it's just a word that's thrown around too much IMO. If everybody's a genius, then nobody's a genius, you know what I'm sayin?


Everybody isn't a genius because like I said from jump...U cant get in the game and do what he did. There's a bunch of Coli producers and rappers on this site and none of them can get in the game and do what Kanye did. Post #15 hit it on the nail. Sounds like u (and a bunch of others) dont know what the definition of "Genius" is.


gen·ius
/ˈjēnyəs/

noun

1.
exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.

2.

a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect.
 

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Everybody isn't a genius because like I said from jump...U cant get in the game and do what he did. There's a bunch of Coli producers and rappers on this site and none of them can get in the game and do what Kanye did. Post #15 hit it on the nail. Sounds like u (and a bunch of others) dont know what the definition of "Genius" is.


gen·ius
/ˈjēnyəs/

noun

1.
exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.

2.

a person who is exceptionally intelligent or creative, either generally or in some particular respect.

So Kanye's a genius cuz he's a bigger star than most people? lol

That should be chalked up half to talent but half to being with the Roc at the right time. And yeah he became a bigger star than say Bleek or Beans but that has a lot to do with marketability too. He was much more marketable to white America than them.

No doubt he's a good artist (personally I think there's hip hop artists with more substance, but still) even considering his falloff is probably one of the worst ever in hip hop. He was a breath of fresh air when he first blew up when commercial rap was getting hella stale. But I can't call him a genius. Dope artist, but not an exceptional one - mostly cuz he's a great producer but only a slightly above average rapper.
 

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Well it seems you have your own personal biases of what a genius is. The fact you'd bring up Kim K's prison reform shows us you're more interested in Kanye's character flaws with regards to his "genius" and not his creative ones. Well being a genius doesn't absolve someone from being flawed in other areas. Many consider Steve Jobs a genius and he was a terrible father and died from his own egoism from something that was completely preventable.

Isaac Newton believed in alchemy
 

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Being the greatest musician to ever exist can weigh heavy on a fella. He suffers from genuine geniusitis.

naw that's trane IMO

he was influencing goat hip-hop artists like this across genres..


 

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Honestly that's a big part of it. You say something enough with conviction and follow through and it becomes reality.

Despite how I feel about him now I will say this positive thing about Kanye. He was never the most talented emcee nor was he the best beatmaker or producer (despite what his stans say). But the fact that you could hear that his vision outreached his skills on College Dropout for example is in itself the best thing about it.

You can hear him punching in on that album because his breath control wasn't as good. You can tell it's bloated with too many skits. You can tell some of the features don't work as well as others. Certain parts try to sound bigger than they are. And he had to go out of the box to make certain idea work. For example the flute sound on Jesus Walks is John legend's voice autotuned. The sample for Last Call didn't clear so he had to sample someone else signing the Mr. Rocafella part (also John legend I think).

The album has these imperfections and that's what makes it so dope. His ambition for what he wanted that album to be is so apparent, and eventually his skills improved and he surrounded himself with enough help to make the end product match the vision.

So I've always respected that he had really big goals and aspirations with his albums.
 

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He made some really good songs during a time where people were making some really bad songs

He was a pretty high level artist, but it’s not like Hip Hop didn’t have great acts before or after. Kendrick is riding the same type of wave...he’s good, but compared to what?
 

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he's a genius at recognizing actual genius then building off that

he is sample based in everything he does

ye is a compilation not references to his inspirations

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