What makes Lebron better than Kareem?

[BrothaZay]

6'2", and no I didn't play basketball. I played football and baseball. I don't understand why that matters considering I just applied basic statistical math, and a third party synopsis. Or is this going to take a "You didn't play basketball, so you don't know what you're looking at" type spin?

Yup

 

[VegetasHairline]

there's nothing a human can do against this.

Draymond Green shutting that shyt down!

 

[F*ckthemkids]

Yup

Yup what? Did you play basketball? Must have been a pee wee league of some kind where they didn't keep stats and gave out participation trophies.

 

[BrothaZay]

Yup what? Did you play basketball? Must have been a pee wee league of some kind where they didn't keep stats and gave out participation trophies.

I played in college

 

[F*ckthemkids]

I played in college

 

[good pups]

more points

 

[Diondon]

Lebron has waaayyy more Great Playoff Performances than Michael and everyone.

 

[invincible1914]

A more dominant, skilled and impactful player. It's as simple as that.

More dominant than the man who had the slam dunk banned?

"NCAA banned dunking for 10 years to stop Kareem Abdul-Jabbar!": How the 'Lew Alcindor rule' was imposed to slow down the rise of the UCLA star - The SportsRush

The NCAA imposed some questionable rules in the 1960s. One of them was the ban on dunking to slow down a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

thesportsrush.com

This just isn’t true.

 

[fifth column]

Yes he was, I could make the argument LeBron peaked higher than Mike given he carried a greater defensive responsibility than Mike ever did while still being the primary initiator AND scorer on offense...

Bron's collection of greatest playoff performances is greater in quantity than Mike's and his greatest are probably just better...

So I could make that argument based on those merits, but I'll meet in the middle and say Peak Mike and Peak Bron were equally high...

Lebron ain’t fukking with peak 87-93 Mike, stop

 

[Roger king]

Please dont do this and embarras yourself even rob parker a lebron hater acknowledges he is top 2 only behind jordan, lebron getting the record will solidly put that debate to rest and cement his place as no 2 with still time to go upwards.

 

[mitter]

Nothing.

Kareem was better.

 

[fifth column]

Actually by the numbers, MJ is not a better shooter. Lebron shoots at a higher percentage inside and outside the arc. Lebron has played 5 more years, so even if we took both of their 10 best shooting years lebron still shoots almost 3 percent higher than mike. 53.3% to 50.6%. He also shoots a higher 3pt% despite shooting 4,698 more 3pt field goals.

As far as defense goes, this summary might be one of the best i've seen.

"So after watching the film, looking at the data available, putting their defense into context, who do I think was the better or more impactful defender?

The best way to put this is I think Lebron James had the better defensive prime (08-13) and Michael Jordan had the better defensive career. I think Lebron’s prime defense is more impactful and adds more value to his team compared to Michael’s. That added off ball defense and versatility gives him a slight edge over Jordan. Michael Jordan has the better defensive career, he was as valuable to more valuable for a longer period of time. I have 08-13 Lebron beating 88-92 Michael by a hair, his combination of team and isolation defense along with amazing versatility added a lot of value to his team. Both are all time defenders, especially in their primes. Jordan’s defensive consistency stayed up till later in his career, Lebron declined earlier. Both these greats turn it up in the playoffs, predictably their defense gets better when the stakes are higher. Both of the players were a part of great league defenses and clearly had an all time impact."

We counting layups as shooting now?

 

[fifth column]

Please dont do this and embarras yourself even rob parker a lebron hater acknowledges he is top 2 only behind jordan, lebron getting the record will solidly put that debate to rest and cement his place as no 2 with still time to go upwards.

How many more years we giving Bron to pass MJ? I say 10 more seasons

 

[murksiderock]

Here's a question, when people talk "peaks" or even standard GOAT evaluation, tell me who wore as many hats as Peak and Prime Bron and held that level of play for as long as he has? Who was expected to be the primary offensive playmaker, the first scoring option, the offensive closer, and ANCHOR the defense?

If you can answer these questions we have a clear picture on who peaked the highest...

Jordan = better scorer, shooter and defender

You’ve never played basketball a day in your life

How tall are you

Your unathletic ass know how tall I am , I grew up playing streetball with older kids so I could probably beat you anyway ...

 

[F*ckthemkids]

We counting layups as shooting now?

We counting this as a serious question now? Layups are apart of basketball, but what we're not going to sit here and pretend that's all Lebron does. And if we are, it's no point in continuing this conversation.