What makes Lebron better than Kareem?

[BrothaZay]

Here's a question, when people talk "peaks" or even standard GOAT evaluation, tell me who wore as many hats as Peak and Prime Bron and held that level of play for as long as he has? Who was expected to be the primary offensive playmaker, the first scoring option, the offensive closer, and ANCHOR the defense?

If you can answer these questions we have a clear picture on who peaked the highest...



Your unathletic ass know how tall I am , I grew up playing streetball with older kids so I could probably beat you anyway ...

So you never played? Ol fat head ass nikka

 

[FreshAIG]

Because Lebron is the greatest basketball player ever and has been for like 8 years

 

[Ozymandeas]

LeBron is a better shooter but for some reason he’s horrible from the free throw line. Make it make sense

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Kareem never fell on his knees, he stood as a man.

 

[Sunalmighty]

LeBron is a better shooter but for some reason he’s horrible from the free throw line. Make it make sense

 

[fifth column]

We counting this as a serious question now? Layups are apart of basketball, but what we're not going to sit here and pretend that's all Lebron does. And if we are, it's no point in continuing this conversation.

Point is MJ is a better shooter than Lebron

 

[fifth column]

Because Lebron is the greatest basketball player ever and has been for like 8 years

Can’t be the greatest basketball player ever and only win 4-6 chips in 20 years when the real goat MJ won 6-0 with 2 3-peats and was more dominant over his peers in less time.

 

[Remote]

Can’t be the greatest basketball player ever and only win 4-6 chips in 20 years when the real goat MJ won 6-0 with 2 3-peats and was more dominant over his peers in less time.

This lousy argument is so tired.

 

[fifth column]

This lousy argument is so tired.

Not an argument just a reality. The main issue why Lebron cannot be goat is because the consensus have seen better in MJ. IMO Bron is the undisputed #2 especially after passing KAJ on the scoring list. The scoring list only affects Kareem’s standing and not MJ. Kobe and Malone passed MJ a long time ago so it’s not a factor.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

This lousy argument is so tired.

What makes LeBron the GOAT other than his longevity accolades?

 

[Remote]

What makes LeBron the GOAT other than his longevity accolades?

There is no GOAT. Great players are great within the context of their eras.

But the “x player can’t be better than y player because rings” is a stupid argument and always will be.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

There is no GOAT. Great players are great within the context of their eras.

But the “x player can’t be better than y player because rings” is a stupid argument and always will be.

So if winning doesn't make you the great, what makes you the great?

 

[Remote]

So if winning doesn't make you the great, what makes you the great?

Imagine two players have the exact same performance.

One loses a game.
The other wins a game.

Who is the better player?

The answer is neither. They have the exact same output.

The win and the loss are the result of other things. Coaching. Teammates. Whatever. It could be 50 reasons.

If you can understand that, you understand why something like ring count isn’t a good way to decide who is better between two players.

Now obviously the best players perform in such a way that it tends to lead to wins over time. But it’s a highly flawed way to measure his value/greatness.

 

[Peruvian Connect]

Imagine two players have the exact same performance.

One loses a game.
The other wins a game.

Who is the better player?

The answer is neither. They have the exact same output.

The win and the loss are the result of other things. Coaching. Teammates. Whatever. It could be 50 reasons.

If you can understand that, you understand why something like ring count isn’t a good way to decide who is better between two players.

Now obviously the best players perform in such a way that it tends to lead to wins over time. But it’s a highly flawed way to measure his value/greatness.

so how do you measure greatnesss? And how does it put LeBron above all else

 

[nieman]

Imagine two players have the exact same performance.

One loses a game.
The other wins a game.

Who is the better player?

The answer is neither. They have the exact same output.

The win and the loss are the result of other things. Coaching. Teammates. Whatever. It could be 50 reasons.

If you can understand that, you understand why something like ring count isn’t a good way to decide who is better between two players.

Now obviously the best players perform in such a way that it tends to lead to wins over time. But it’s a highly flawed way to measure his value/greatness.

I agree. So, how would you look at everything and say Lebron is the greatest to ever play? How would you say MJ? What about WIlt? Oscar? Logo, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Cap, Dream...