What NBA player has the most complete OVERALL game?
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Doesn't have a jumper is a stretch. He's not Rondo or MCW. Westbrook is one of the most reckless defenders in the game and is an even worse jumpshooter than LBJ.
AD has his case, but I wouldn't give him this until his offensive repertoire develops further or he puts it all together defensively.
Like Durant better than both. He's actually a better defender than Bron (at least he was during the MVP run) and has the offensive skill to overtake him if he's right
krazykid18
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If we were honest it is D wade
His post game is amazing his mid range shot is amazing he doesn't shoot threes like that but always makes it when he needs it and his one on one game is amazing
He can attack the rack he can pass the ball well enough that he was tasked as the point guard and main disturber on those pre heat teams
His defense is solid and he can play the passing lanes and and his help defense and switch defense on bigger defenders is also good
His post game is amazing his mid range shot is amazing he doesn't shoot threes like that but always makes it when he needs it and his one on one game is amazing
He can attack the rack he can pass the ball well enough that he was tasked as the point guard and main disturber on those pre heat teams
His defense is solid and he can play the passing lanes and and his help defense and switch defense on bigger defenders is also good
360Waves
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Used to be LeBron. But at one point(around 2014, his last year with Miami) his defense fell off. And his jumper hasn't been good since the 2013 Finals. Probably Westbrook, Anthony Davis, or could even be Steph. Steph is an underrated defender. Durant is close to being on that list. His defense has improved, and his passing is better. But overall, Westbrook can pass, shoot defend, rebound, etc. D Wade used to be a candidate in this category.
-Mediocre on-ball defender shielded by a dominant defensive GS squad.
-Unathletic, can't guard any position outside of 1's and small 2's. Got his lunch ate by the current closest thing to Stephen Curry in the finals (Kyrie)...who was playing on only 1 leg.
-Zero real post game (inb4 bu-bu he's a PG nikka tell that to Sabo.) We're talking about overall game here right? So post is included.
-Poor interior scorer. Inb4 bu-bu his percentages at the rim! Stats are nothing without context. Go ahead and look at most of Steph's drives, the lane is almost always completely open and he goes in for a basic off-glass layup. The day I see Steph consistently splitting doubles and doing some Sabo/prime-Rose/Wall/Irving shyt at the rim through traffic is the day I'll say he's a great interior scorer. Just go watch WB's 47 last night on YT and see if you can spot the difference.
-A pretty good rebounder at the PG position but not even in the Top 3 as far as PGs go.
But most importantly...
-If his 3 ball isn't falling literally becomes invisible. Because his entire game is built around his ability to shoot. The same cannot be said for Wall or Sabo.
If we're taking PGs by pure versatility there are several names that come to mind before Steph. He's still at worst the 2nd best PG in the L though.
thelonious21
I like my women tall
AD is the man..
But the dikk riding is
Youngin ain't no where near Bron .
Give son 2 more years then.. yea
But the dikk riding is
Youngin ain't no where near Bron .
Give son 2 more years then.. yea
Biscayne
Ocean air
Don't forget his rebounding has always been great for a smaller SG. He can also play off the ball well, and is a good cutter. He can seamlessly switch to being ball dominant to playing off the ball. He can be a solid combo guard as well.
KOBE IN HIS PRIME COULD DO IT ALL...PROBABLY THE BEST OVERALL PLAYER EVER. FROM POST GAME TO THREES TO PASSING TO DEFENDING. HE'S THE ONLY PLAYER WHO DIDNT HAVE ANY WEAKNESS.
AD is the man..
But the dikk riding is
Youngin ain't no where near Bron .
Give son 2 more years then.. yea
AD is real deal tho breh, probably the most complete player on both sides of the ball. So much so that you almost dont know what to expect from him from night to night, he kills you in like a million ways
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
-Mediocre on-ball defender shielded by a dominant defensive GS squad.
-Unathletic, can't guard any position outside of 1's and small 2's. Got his lunch ate by the current closest thing to Stephen Curry in the finals (Kyrie)...who was playing on only 1 leg.
-Zero real post game (inb4 bu-bu he's a PG nikka tell that to Sabo.) We're talking about overall game here right? So post is included.
-Poor interior scorer. Inb4 bu-bu his percentages at the rim! Stats are nothing without context. Go ahead and look at most of Steph's drives, the lane is almost always completely open and he goes in for a basic off-glass layup. The day I see Steph consistently splitting doubles and doing some Sabo/prime-Rose/Wall/Irving shyt at the rim through traffic is the day I'll say he's a great interior scorer. Just go watch WB's 47 last night on YT and see if you can spot the difference.
-A pretty good rebounder at the PG position but not even in the Top 3 as far as PGs go.
But most importantly...
-If his 3 ball isn't falling literally becomes invisible. Because his entire game is built around his ability to shoot. The same cannot be said for Wall or Sabo.
If we're taking PGs by pure versatility there are several names that come to mind before Steph
This Lebron doesn't have a post game is STILL being spouted despite anyone who has ever watched Lebron for the past 3 years knows that he's almost an instant double team if he's in the post.
They gave Iggy an FMVP because he was able to single coverage Lebron better than any other player could and Lebron still averaged 2K numbers.
Lebron is a monster in the post because he can score in a variety of ways, he has amazing touch, and he's ungodly smart so he finds open teammates to be a playmaker while backing down.
Lebron is a great post player. People just think because he's not doing dream shakes or because it's more efficient like Shaq/Magic than as aesthetically pleasing like Kobe/MJ.
Also, Lebron is better served as a defensive anchor than as the lockdown defender. People seem to think iso on-ball defense is the only aspect of defense that matters but it's not.
Lebron is far better at breaking up plays, directing teammates, and using his ungodly vision, predictive abilities, and his encyclopedia of memorized plays to be a disruptive defensive force and it's actually better for the Cavs because it allows Lebron to conserve his energy while still making a huge impact.
More aspects to defense than constant ball pressure.
They gave Iggy an FMVP because he was able to single coverage Lebron better than any other player could and Lebron still averaged 2K numbers.
Lebron is a monster in the post because he can score in a variety of ways, he has amazing touch, and he's ungodly smart so he finds open teammates to be a playmaker while backing down.
Lebron is a great post player. People just think because he's not doing dream shakes or because it's more efficient like Shaq/Magic than as aesthetically pleasing like Kobe/MJ.
Also, Lebron is better served as a defensive anchor than as the lockdown defender. People seem to think iso on-ball defense is the only aspect of defense that matters but it's not.
Lebron is far better at breaking up plays, directing teammates, and using his ungodly vision, predictive abilities, and his encyclopedia of memorized plays to be a disruptive defensive force and it's actually better for the Cavs because it allows Lebron to conserve his energy while still making a huge impact.
More aspects to defense than constant ball pressure.
Spree At Last
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Not the best obviously, but an underrated choice is Al Horford. He draining threes this year? He has no flaws. High fg%, good ft shooter, hits threes, plays good defense, good passer, can post up and hit the midrange, never turns the ball over... definition of a complete player.
I hoped you cleaned up after that slobbing (no homo)
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his offense game is still fukking trash
he has to bulldoze to get to the rim
or
he calls for a pick because his first step is
TrebleMan
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Triple threat/jab step game, handles, shooting range, fakes for days, then turns around and shuts down the cat guarding him, etc.
I'd say Kobe followed by Hakeem Olajuwon for all-time.
Today, AD.