What Prepares A Prospect Better For The NBA?

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  • Option 1

    Votes: 18 64.3%
  • Option 2

    Votes: 10 35.7%

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Option 3: address the origin of the problem.


NCAA makes billions from free labor under the guise of free education, foh... Pay college football and Basketball players and the NBA and NFL instantly becomes a better product as Those 2 sports pay for all the other sports

And for the title IX people saying will we pay softball, volleyball, swimteam, and fencing...answer hell no, softball teams don't raise enough funds in a years gate receipts to pay for 1 away game flight.

If they cannot acquiesce let the greedy NCAA die.
 

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If a player plays really well in the G-League, yet nobody outside of very hardcore people notice, would he really shoot up the draft boards the same way?
Of course. How do you think international players make it into the lottery every single year? Probably, even faster cuz you know they are balling out against better competition.

NBA scouts = very hardcore people. They're not drafting a guy just cuz he has a lot of instagram followers....
 

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It depends on the school


Which schools?



Embiid was definitely helped by being in the NBA as opposed to college, apparently his nutrition and sleeping habits were horrific. If he stayed 1-2 more years at Kansas with that broken foot and hit the league he would probably be out the league within 2 years. Kansas wasn't gonna get him a personal chef to control what he eats.

Martin notes that Embiid has a personal chef now who has curated a healthier menu with a dietician specifically catering to Embiid's taste and nutritional needs during rehab. The diet is enriched with proline, an amino acid that promotes bone and connective tissue growth. To get his Vitamin C, the Sixers had given him orange juice. Turns out, Embiid doesn't like orange juice, but he loves mango juice. Now, the Sixers squeeze their own mangos in-house.
 

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Which schools?

John Beilein is probably a better development coach than 95 % of NBA coaches.

And not all NBA franchises have the same team cultures.

Larry Brown destroyed young talent. Brad Stevens puts them in good positions. Its case by case.

You mention Embiid and I can raise you Brandon Roy.
 

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John Beilein is probably a better development coach than 95 % of NBA coaches.

He's not getting one and dones though, he's getting the guys who want/need to work to make it to the league.

The guys he's sent to the league haven't been that good either :ld: Levert has potential, but his best player has been Hardaway Jr.
 

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He's not getting one and dones though, he's getting the guys who want/need to work to make it to the league.

The guys he's sent to the league haven't been that good either :ld: Levert has potential, but his best player has been Hardaway Jr.

They're good considering the tools they had.

Steph Curry, Harden, Roy, Draymond, Kawhi, etc......this stuff is totally dependent on each individual players development timeline and the team/culture they are playing under.

You can't just throw every young prospect to ANY NBA franchise and say its a positive.
 

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Embiid was definitely helped by being in the NBA as opposed to college, apparently his nutrition and sleeping habits were horrific. If he stayed 1-2 more years at Kansas with that broken foot and hit the league he would probably be out the league within 2 years. Kansas wasn't gonna get him a personal chef to control what he eats.

Most schools have their own top notch facilities and med staffs. When it comes to nutrition yes the NBA helps big time but players can also afford to have personal chefs and trainers. Dexter Pittman went to Texas and he was damn near 400 pounds. He left there losing over 100 pounds because of the workout regimen they put him on. It just varies. Some of these colleges have facilities that put some NBA spots to shame. It’s up to the player to take advantage of the facilities.
 

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They're good considering the tools they had.

Steph Curry, Harden, Roy, Draymond, Kawhi, etc......this stuff is totally dependent on each individual players development timeline and the team/culture they are playing under.

You can't just throw every young prospect to ANY NBA franchise and say its a positive.


You can't just throw any player in, however I think the Sixers player development has been solid so far and being within their system has helped Simmons and Embiid. I don't think Embiid is the same player if he ends up in Orlando or Sacramento.

And the average NBA team has money at stake when it comes to the development of a first round pick, there's jobs on the line and these dudes are viewed as more of an investment than most college teams view the 1 & done guys.
 

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Most schools have their own top notch facilities and med staffs. When it comes to nutrition yes the NBA helps big time but players can also afford to have personal chefs and trainers. Dexter Pittman went to Texas and he was damn near 400 pounds. He left there losing over 100 pounds because of the workout regimen they put him on. It just varies. Some of these colleges have facilities that put some NBA spots to shame. It’s up to the player to take advantage of the facilities.

Most schools aren't devoting the time and resources to a 1 and done, or sending personal chefs to monitor what their players eat. Just having the facilities doesn't mean much if there's no real guidance on how to use them, Embiid left Kansas with absolutely terrible nutrition, someone like Jamal Murray looks like a completely different athlete now after being with NBA strength and conditioning guys for 1 year, what exactly did Kentucky do for him?

It varies, but the average NBA team has better training staff, facilities and nutritionists on deck, how is this really a discussion :ld:
 

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I think it depends on how much attention and coaching a prospect gets.

For blue chip prospects, option 1.

For everyone else - going to college and getting properly coached, learning how to be independent, and gaining confidence against college level players could be more beneficial. Or even the G-League.
 

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Most schools aren't devoting the time and resources to a 1 and done, or sending personal chefs to monitor what their players eat. Just having the facilities doesn't mean much if there's no real guidance on how to use them, Embiid left Kansas with absolutely terrible nutrition, someone like Jamal Murray looks like a completely different athlete now after being with NBA strength and conditioning guys for 1 year, what exactly did Kentucky do for him?

It varies, but the average NBA team has better training staff, facilities and nutritionists on deck, how is this really a discussion :ld:
Of course they do, but in relation to OP’s question, if you’re not playing you’re only gonna get but so much out of it.
 

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Of course they do, but in relation to OP’s question, if you’re not playing you’re only gonna get but so much out of it.


But, the guys who have sat out a year like that have said it's helped them though. The NBA training staff helps a lot, and he was cleared for 5 on 5 drills in April of last year but had been doing other work before that, constantly working out with trainers before games.

Simmons should win ROTY, because by definition he is a rookie, there should be no objection on his status on whether he's a rookie or not, he didn't play a single minute last year.
 

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But, the guys who have sat out a year like that have said it's helped them though. The NBA training staff helps a lot, and he was cleared for 5 on 5 drills in April of last year but had been doing other work before that, constantly working out with trainers before games.

Simmons should win ROTY, because by definition he is a rookie, there should be no objection on his status on whether he's a rookie or not, he didn't play a single minute last year.

I don’t object to Simmons’ rookie status. I’m fact I think how the NBA makes those judgments is wrong.
 
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