What Putin told the UN: the US and allies are to blame in Mideast
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Obama didn't vote for the war. A lot of his administration didn't support the war either.
But as POTUS you can't just pack up all your toys when you want to the moment you come into office. So we eased out. Tried to correct things, and the sins of the past came back to bite Iraq in the ass.
Arab spring popped off and we tried to wade through those waters. Failed. And this is what we have. But you keep wanting perfect outcomes. Doesn't happen that way.
We were asked to help in Syria (which is a coalition effort mind you).
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Lets go back to 2011 since you don't recall.
You are trying to play both sides of this issue. Should we or should we not factor in ~70 years of ME intervention experience in decisions going forward?
Oh please dont try and play all noble and benevolent now. This is about furthering the hegemony and our self interests, pure and simple. Saudi Arabia/Qatar/other Persian Gulf states, China, North Korea, the Dominican Republic, these are all regimes steeped in some unsavory civil rights violating business, yet we remain
or even keep strong positive diplomatic ties with them. Hegemony hoe Napoleon would be gleefully proclaiming how military intervention with them does nothing to help the hegemony. But now that it's obvious we can't even do THAT, you want to play your altruistic world police card lol. Get all the way the fukk outta here
Obama has us fighting in 6 wars and he started like 3 or 4 of them. fukk outta here with this "they forced our hand" bullshyt.
I don't understand what you're asking right now.You are trying to play both sides of this issue. Should we or should we not factor in ~70 years of ME intervention experience in decisions going forward?
Oh please dont try and play all noble and benevolent now. This is about furthering the hegemony and our self interests, pure and simple. Saudi Arabia/Qatar/other Persian Gulf states, China, North Korea, the Dominican Republic, these are all regimes steeped in some unsavory civil rights violating business, yet we remain
I didn't support Iraq.
hold up...yet you'd be mad if the US did nothing in them?
Obama has us fighting in 6 wars and he started like 3 or 4 of them. fukk outta here with this "they forced our hand" bullshyt.
Don't throw stones and hide your hand.
Cause in vacuums, there are places for other needs to be met and I KNOW you don't want China or Russia doing it
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It looks like we are headed for WWIII with Russia so you will be granted your wish for a blank check for us to flex our power.hold up...yet you'd be mad if the US did nothing in them?
Don't throw stones and hide your hand.
Cause in vacuums, there are places for other needs to be met and I KNOW you don't want China or Russia doing it
I don't have suggestions on what we should do, but continuing things your way will have ISIS being recognized by the UN as a legit state. Given how much we have fukked up the ME so far maybe letting China/Russia take them on wouldn't be such a bad thing. We are already on shaky ground as the reserve currency and other shyt.... all your posturing and hegemony dikk sucking seems to be a response to the inevitable