WHAT RAKIM’S AFTERMATH ALBUM PRODUCED BY DR. DRE COULDA SOUNDED LIKE

[bordeaux]

wasnt dre also working guys like busta rhymes, xzibit and eminem at the time? i wouldnt consider them the most gangster rappers either. maybe dre just wasnt crazy about the music. also...



> ra's version.

 

[Threnody]

What could have been tho

 

[Ziggiy]

I feel he could have been creative and found a balance. Over $200,000 were spent in costs of him being on Aftermath. Moved his family to LA etc etc for year - withno albumin the end. No pressed up album.

Why not just save or invest that $200,000+ and stay in NY?

My bad for speculating.

I just wish an album was done.

Its RAKIM. I have no idea why anybody, Dre or otherwise, would sign RAKIM and expect him to go gangsta. Thats like signing Nas and expecting him to be Roddy Rich

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Sometimes, the greats can't work together. The stars don't align like they should. There's a reason Dre never worked with Michael Jackson.

 

[Ziggiy]

Sometimes, the greats can't work together. The stars don't align like they should. There's a reason Dre never worked with Michael Jackson.

Cause MJ wanted like 10 beats and ALL the publishing

 

[Unknown Poster]

Would have been a tier below Busta Rhymes / Truth Hurts status. Let's be real.. it was an odd pairing and Rakim did not update his flow for the era.

That's what people did wanted though

 

[Unknown Poster]

These thread just make me frustrated that none of these albums were released. Aftermath dropped the ball in so many ways.

 

[Redwing80]

These thread just make me frustrated that none of these albums were released. Aftermath dropped the ball in so many ways.

Aftermath was on fire during that time. So many records being sold it's a damn shame everyone couldn't get the same amount of attention as others

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Cause MJ wanted like 10 beats and ALL the publishing

The first time, yeah. But the second time, MJ wanted Dre to work on Invincible and he said no. When Dre was asked about it, he said he likes to work with his own people where he has more control over the final product. He couldn't tell Michael that he needs another take or to change some of the lyrics like he would with one of his rappers. He would have been too intimidated to do that.

 

[Ziggiy]

The first time, yeah. But the second time, MJ wanted Dre to work on Invincible and he said no. When Dre was asked about it, he said he likes to work with his own people where he has more control over the final product. He couldn't tell Michael that he needs another take or to change some of the lyrics like he would with one of his rappers. He would have been too intimidated to do that.

Makes sense


Though i’ve heard MJ was very collaborative and takes advice from the producers he works with, he wasn’t a studio tyrant. Teddy Riley in particular said MJ WANTED to be challenged and would do anything to make sure the final product was as close to perfection as humanely possible

 

[Sccit]

The first time, yeah. But the second time, MJ wanted Dre to work on Invincible and he said no. When Dre was asked about it, he said he likes to work with his own people where he has more control over the final product. He couldn't tell Michael that he needs another take or to change some of the lyrics like he would with one of his rappers. He would have been too intimidated to do that.

Tony A explains why Dr. Dre refused to produce for Michael Jackson & Madonna

 

[Crumple]

Its RAKIM. I have no idea why anybody, Dre or otherwise, would sign RAKIM and expect him to go gangsta. Thats like signing Nas and expecting him to be Roddy Rich

True. I just feel they could have talked out an alternative. Rakim has done Gangsta sounding songs like the primo one I posted.

 

[Ziploc]

Dre had a pocket and tempo as far his producing goes during that time period.Ra has a tempo he's comfortable on but imo those weren't a good match. Ra needs a backdrop that has syncopated beats, a sample to match his cadence's and a change up. Dre is a great sound guy but his beats during that era were lazy, stagnant and too heavy on simple 2-4 tone melodies,add Rakim's monotone voice and it's a recipe for a snoozefest. Imagine what a Hi Tek,Nottz,Focus or someone like Salaam Remi could have came up with,I think much more adventurous and sonically pleasing music.

 

[Sccit]

Dre had a pocket and tempo as far his producing goes during that time period.Ra has a tempo he's comfortable on but imo those weren't a good match. Ra needs a backdrop that has syncopated beats, a sample to match his cadence's and a change up. Dre is a great sound guy but his beats during that era were lazy, stagnant and too heavy on simple 2-4 tone melodies,add Rakim's monotone voice and it's a recipe for a snoozefest. Imagine what a Hi Tek,Nottz,Focus or someone like Salaam Remi could have came up with,I think much more adventurous and sonically pleasing music.

I DISAGREE

FROM WHAT WE HEARD, RAKIM SOUNDED GREAT OVER DRE BEATS

 

[Unknown Poster]

Sometimes, the greats can't work together. The stars don't align like they should. There's a reason Dre never worked with Michael Jackson.

real talk.

Some things are better on paper than in real life... like that "masters of hip-hop" collab album that never happened between Rakim, Nas, Kool G Rap, and some other rappers back in the 2000s that was supposed to be produced by DJ Premier.

People on SOHH were like "why would these great rappers get together to make an album just to flop miserably?"