What started the attitude era decline?

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Wcw stop being a threat & smackdown was nothing more than WWF thunder.

The rock & Austin`s presence being more absent as the years went on didn't help either.

Wwe let them wild life people punk them outta of their name putting the final nail to the coffin.:manny:
 

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And then Stephanie started putting herself all over the shows even more. I watched all of the weekly shows and PPVs from 95-WM X7 on the Network and you can definitely see things start getting stupid in late '00. That whole Vince McMahon/Trish Stratus/Linda McMahon shyt was just stupid.

How long did it take you to watch all of the weekly shows and PPVs from 95 to WM X7??
 

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Wrestling as a whole peaked in popularity in Summer 98-Summer 99 imo. The "what's gonna happen next?" can't miss aspect kind of died with the higher power angle imo. The Attitude Era magic died there.

WWFs ratings did great for another year, but they were basically re-doing stuff we'd already seen, Rock was just super over so it worked. Summer 98-Summer 99 felt so fresh and unpredictable and by Summer 99 you started to see a slow dying off the casual fan from wrestling.
 

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John Cena.

Wrestling got stale, hulk hogan-ish and less edgy once Marky Mark was popularized.

That was an end of an era.

I know people wanna rewrite history but it's the truth especially when technical wrestling was becoming more popular.

No one was topping Rock nor Austin on the mic (less technical, more brawlers, superb comedians that whooped ass) and Brock had the perfect mix of power and technical.

Then Angle was legit perfect all around. He should've been pushed to the sky.

Eddie, Benoit, Jerikkk-hoe, shıt - Edge & the Hardy's, Booker T.

Cena was cartoon cereal and fụcked it up.

Bautista was tiers above Cena because he was a powerhouse that knew his role without over the top gimmicks.

Bautista and Brock should've ran an era together, not Bautista & Cena.

It took nearly a decade for Cena to tone it down but by then it was too late.

The 2nd was HHH - era of gloom/reign of terror.

He was the Donald Trump to a MAGA group of champions. Overhyped and overrated by white people, because of the people around him - until he opened his mouth and gave long-winded dialogues and a large demograph of old school wrestling fans officially checked out.

To sum it up - John Cena was the intro to the end and HHH was the final nail on the coffin.

And hence, even behind the scenes, now that Rock is gone, he's doing it again.

What black talent?
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Creative writing wise - Shawn Michaels (Daniel Bryan's trainer and project) >>> HHH easily

Look at NXT.
 
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The Invasion.
I’d say this is about where I lost interest. WCW big guns didn’t come, so no fantasy booking. Vince booking WCW guys to be punks. And then having to headline the alliance team with Stone Cold and Angle.

Invasion goes over 10x better if it’s Goldberg, Sting, DDP leading the charge.

Then when it ended the roster was just too big.
 

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A lot of people are saying 2002 and I remember vividly checking out. Also for me I was the biggest Rock stan but I was burnt out on the same 5 catch phrases too.

I graduated high school in 2000…. By 01 my interest dwindled… i didn’t watch for YEARS after 02… I’d tune in just to see who had the belt(s)…

There were a few moments after the years that kinda made me check in

CM Punk pipe bomb was one…
Brock Lesnar coming back and F5ing Cena
Mark Henry adlibbing in his matches was hilarious as he was beatin yo ass

I know everyone is in love with Cena now but I HATED dude back in his prime.

I came back during that Rock v Cena WM just for that match

And whatever Hell in Cell with Taker v HHH w HBK as the ref.
 

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Y'all think had Russo stayed it would have lasted longer? Because the argument could be made that the product declined after he left.

WWE in 2000 really boosted because they really started purging ECW and WCW for their talent pool and they coasted off that along with shyt Cokeboy and Russo already planned
 

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Injuries and movies.

Imagine if Hogan got hurt in 88 and Savage started dabbling in movies.

Also Vince's ego. If he does a proper invasion angle things are much different.

Lastly, everything runs its course. Dudes cussing and sexual stuff was shocking when it started but eventually people get used to that. You gotta build new stars and put quality storylines together to keep people interested. You cant keep redoing the hero vs evil authority over and over again and think people are gonna stay invested.
 

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switch to TNN, but also, the post-invasion stories were boring besides Rock/Hogan
 

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A lot of people are saying 2002 and I remember vividly checking out. Also for me I was the biggest Rock stan but I was burnt out on the same 5 catch phrases too.

I graduated high school in 2000…. By 01 my interest dwindled… i didn’t watch for YEARS after 02… I’d tune in just to see who had the belt(s)…

There were a few moments after the years that kinda made me check in

CM Punk pipe bomb was one…
Brock Lesnar coming back and F5ing Cena
Mark Henry adlibbing in his matches was hilarious as he was beatin yo ass

I know everyone is in love with Cena now but I HATED dude back in his prime.

I came back during that Rock v Cena WM just for that match

And whatever Hell in Cell with Taker v HHH w HBK as the ref.

How do you feel about missing HBKs second run when he came back in 2002??
 
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