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Some feminism is injurious to militancy. And when the two clash, militancy wins out. What good is it to support feminism over people?:yeshrug:
 

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sexism and racism are the same exact things.
If you inherently look at women as less of humans then you, how tf u different from a racist
It is biological proven that there are difference between genders

The biological differences between races are still very blurry though

But we all KNOW for a fact that women arent the same as men.
 

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Some feminism is injurious to militancy. And when the two clash, militancy wins out. What good is it to support feminism over people?:yeshrug:
How are you supporting people when you are shytting on 50% of them?
 

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sexism and racism are the same exact things.
If you inherently look at women as less of humans then you, how tf u different from a racist
There's no true difference between races other than phenotype. But there are many obvious differences between sexes (most notably, physical). In some situation, its appropriate to discriminate against women because they can't perform as well as men due to basic biology.
Also, race relations have obviously been a much bigger issue in US history. I should have to explain to you why racism is more significant
 

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Here's actually cited, tested and studied research that there's not much differences between the sexes psychologically. Point blank period.

Article from American Psychological Association

http://www.apa.org/research/action/difference.aspx

Men and Women: No Big Difference
Studies show that one's sex has little or no bearing on personality, cognition and leadership.
The Truth about Gender "Differences"
Mars-Venus sex differences appear to be as mythical as the Man in the Moon. A 2005 analysis of 46 meta-analyses that were conducted during the last two decades of the 20th century underscores that men and women are basically alike in terms of personality, cognitive ability and leadership. Psychologist Janet Shibley Hyde, PhD, of the University of Wisconsin in Madison, discovered that males and females from childhood to adulthood are more alike than different on most psychological variables, resulting in what she calls a gender similarities hypothesis. Using meta-analytical techniques that revolutionized the study of gender differences starting in the 1980s, she analyzed how prior research assessed the impact of gender on many psychological traits and abilities, including cognitive abilities, verbal and nonverbal communication, aggression, leadership, self-esteem, moral reasoning and motor behaviors.


Hyde observed that across the dozens of studies, consistent with the gender similarities hypothesis, gender differences had either no or a very small effect on most of the psychological variables examined. Only a few main differences appeared: Compared with women, men could throw farther, were more physically aggressive, masturbated more, and held more positive attitudes about sex in uncommitted relationships.


Furthermore, Hyde found that gender differences seem to depend on the context in which they were measured. In studies designed to eliminate gender norms, researchers demonstrated that gender roles and social context strongly determined a person's actions. For example, after participants in one experiment were told that they would not be identified as male or female, nor did they wear any identification, none conformed to stereotypes about their sex when given the chance to be aggressive. In fact, they did the opposite of what would be expected - women were more aggressive and men were more passive.

Finally, Hyde's 2005 report looked into the developmental course of possible gender differences - how any apparent gap may open or close over time. The analysis presented evidence that gender differences fluctuate with age, growing smaller or larger at different times in the life span. This fluctuation indicates again that any differences are not stable.

Learning Gender-Difference Myths
Media depictions of men and women as fundamentally "different" appear to perpetuate misconceptions - despite the lack of evidence. The resulting "urban legends" of gender difference can affect men and women at work and at home, as parents and as partners. As an example, workplace studies show that women who go against the caring, nurturing feminine stereotype may pay dearly for it when being hired or evaluated. And when it comes to personal relationships, best-selling books and popular magazines often claim that women and men don't get along because they communicate too differently. Hyde suggests instead that men and women stop talking prematurely because they have been led to believe that they can't change supposedly "innate" sex-based traits.

Hyde has observed that children also suffer the consequences of exaggerated claims of gender difference -- for example, the widespread belief that boys are better than girls in math. However, according to her meta-analysis, boys and girls perform equally well in math until high school, at which point boys do gain a small advantage. That may not reflect biology as much as social expectations, many psychologists believe. For example, the original Teen Talk Barbie ™, before she was pulled from the market after consumer protest, said, "Math class is tough."

As a result of stereotyped thinking, mathematically talented elementary-school girls may be overlooked by parents who have lower expectations for a daughter's success in math. Hyde cites prior research showing that parents' expectations of their children's success in math relate strongly to the children's self-confidence and performance.

Moving Past Myth
Hyde and her colleagues hope that people use the consistent evidence that males and females are basically alike to alleviate misunderstanding and correct unequal treatment. Hyde is far from alone in her observation that the clear misrepresentation of sex differences, given the lack of evidence, harms men and women of all ages. In a September 2005 press release on her research issued by the American Psychological Association (APA), she said, "The claims [of gender difference] can hurt women's opportunities in the workplace, dissuade couples from trying to resolve conflict and communication problems and cause unnecessary obstacles that hurt children and adolescents' self-esteem."

Psychologist Diane Halpern, PhD, a professor at Claremont College and past-president (2005) of the American Psychological Association, points out that even where there are patterns of cognitive differences between males and females, "differences are not deficiencies." She continues, "Even when differences are found, we cannot conclude that they are immutable because the continuous interplay of biological and environmental influences can change the size and direction of the effects some time in the future."

The differences that are supported by the evidence cause concern, she believes, because they are sometimes used to support prejudicial beliefs and discriminatory actions against girls and women. She suggests that anyone reading about gender differences consider whether the size of the differences are large enough to be meaningful, recognize that biological and environmental variables interact and influence one other, and remember that the conclusions that we accept today could change in the future.

Cited Research
Archer, J. (2004). Sex differences in aggression in real-world settings: A meta-analytic review. Review of General Psychology, 8, 291-322.

Barnett, R. & Rivers, C. (2004). Same difference: How gender myths are hurting our relationships, our children, and our jobs. New York: Basic Books.

Eaton, W. O., & Enns, L. R. (1986). Sex differences in human motor activity level. Psychological Bulletin, 100, 19-28.

Feingold, A. (1994). Gender differences in personality: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 116, 429-456.

Halpern, D. F. (2000). Sex Differences in Cognitive Abilities (3rd Edition). Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum, Associates, Inc. Publishers.

Halpern, D. F. (2004). A cognitive-process taxonomy for sex differences in cognitive abilities. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 13 (4), 135-139.

Hyde, J. S., Fennema, E., & Lamon, S. (1990). Gender differences in mathematics performance: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 107, 139-155.

Hyde, J. S. (2005). The Gender Similarities Hypothesis. American Psychologist, Vol. 60, No. 6.

Leaper, C. & Smith, T. E. (2004). A meta-analytic review of gender variations in children's language use: Talkativeness, affiliative speech, and assertive speech. Developmental Psychology, 40, 993-1027.

Oliver, M. B. & Hyde, J. S. (1993). Gender differences in sexuality: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 114, 29-51.

Spencer, S. J., Steele, C. M. & Quinn, D. M. (1999). Stereotype threat and women's math performance. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 35, 4-28.

Voyer, D., Voyer, S., & Bryden, M. P., (1995). Magnitude of sex differences in spatial abilities: A meta-analysis and consideration of critical variables. Psychological Bulletin, 117, 250-270.
 
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How are you supporting people when you are shytting on 50% of them?

Ideally one would like everyone to be 100% equal, but in practice this is untenable. There must be reasonable compromises. Feminism weakens men and so opens the entire group for attack. Black men are already enemy #1 on the planet. When the cacs and Asians decide to dead us, feminism will have doomed us all. The solution is to make men stronger, not weaker. Better.
 

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It is biological proven that there are difference between genders

The biological differences between races are still very blurry though

But we all KNOW for a fact that women arent the same as men.
Physical/psychological Superiority/inferiority needs to be classified on a case by case basis and not a masculine feminine paradigm.
 

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The whole experience on TLR has reminded me that I shouldn't have given up my vices.

Y'all argue about this everyday. Every fukking day. In each and every thread people offer solutions that get ignored because everyone wants to be right.

I've been hearing men ain't shyt since I was a little girl.
I've been hearing women ain't shyt since I was a little girl.
So when the fukk are we going to rise above that? None of us are perfect, we'll never be and you have to work with what you got and fund someone who appreciates that.

But if you want to say someone ain't shyt simply by virtue of being born with a certain set of genitals, then so be it.:yeshrug:
 

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Here's actually cited, tested and studied research that there's not much differences between the sexes. Point blank period.
Article from American Psychological Association

http://www.apa.org/research/action/difference.aspx

Men and Women: No Big Difference
Studies show that one's sex has little or no bearing on personality, cognition and leadership.
The Truth about Gender "Differences"
Mars-Venus sex differences appear to be as mythical as the Man in the Moon. A 2005 analysis of 46 meta-analyses that were conducted during the last two decades of the 20th century underscores that men and women are basically alike in terms of personality, cognitive ability and leadership. Psychologist Janet Shibley Hyde, PhD, of the University of Wisconsin in Madison, discovered that males and females from childhood to adulthood are more alike than different on most psychological variables, resulting in what she calls a gender similarities hypothesis. Using meta-analytical techniques that revolutionized the study of gender differences starting in the 1980s, she analyzed how prior research assessed the impact of gender on many psychological traits and abilities, including cognitive abilities, verbal and nonverbal communication, aggression, leadership, self-esteem, moral reasoning and motor behaviors.


Hyde observed that across the dozens of studies, consistent with the gender similarities hypothesis, gender differences had either no or a very small effect on most of the psychological variables examined. Only a few main differences appeared: Compared with women, men could throw farther, were more physically aggressive, masturbated more, and held more positive attitudes about sex in uncommitted relationships.


Furthermore, Hyde found that gender differences seem to depend on the context in which they were measured. In studies designed to eliminate gender norms, researchers demonstrated that gender roles and social context strongly determined a person's actions. For example, after participants in one experiment were told that they would not be identified as male or female, nor did they wear any identification, none conformed to stereotypes about their sex when given the chance to be aggressive. In fact, they did the opposite of what would be expected - women were more aggressive and men were more passive.

Finally, Hyde's 2005 report looked into the developmental course of possible gender differences - how any apparent gap may open or close over time. The analysis presented evidence that gender differences fluctuate with age, growing smaller or larger at different times in the life span. This fluctuation indicates again that any differences are not stable.

Learning Gender-Difference Myths
Media depictions of men and women as fundamentally "different" appear to perpetuate misconceptions - despite the lack of evidence. The resulting "urban legends" of gender difference can affect men and women at work and at home, as parents and as partners. As an example, workplace studies show that women who go against the caring, nurturing feminine stereotype may pay dearly for it when being hired or evaluated. And when it comes to personal relationships, best-selling books and popular magazines often claim that women and men don't get along because they communicate too differently. Hyde suggests instead that men and women stop talking prematurely because they have been led to believe that they can't change supposedly "innate" sex-based traits.

Hyde has observed that children also suffer the consequences of exaggerated claims of gender difference -- for example, the widespread belief that boys are better than girls in math. However, according to her meta-analysis, boys and girls perform equally well in math until high school, at which point boys do gain a small advantage. That may not reflect biology as much as social expectations, many psychologists believe. For example, the original Teen Talk Barbie ™, before she was pulled from the market after consumer protest, said, "Math class is tough."

As a result of stereotyped thinking, mathematically talented elementary-school girls may be overlooked by parents who have lower expectations for a daughter's success in math. Hyde cites prior research showing that parents' expectations of their children's success in math relate strongly to the children's self-confidence and performance.

Moving Past Myth
Hyde and her colleagues hope that people use the consistent evidence that males and females are basically alike to alleviate misunderstanding and correct unequal treatment. Hyde is far from alone in her observation that the clear misrepresentation of sex differences, given the lack of evidence, harms men and women of all ages. In a September 2005 press release on her research issued by the American Psychological Association (APA), she said, "The claims [of gender difference] can hurt women's opportunities in the workplace, dissuade couples from trying to resolve conflict and communication problems and cause unnecessary obstacles that hurt children and adolescents' self-esteem."

Psychologist Diane Halpern, PhD, a professor at Claremont College and past-president (2005) of the American Psychological Association, points out that even where there are patterns of cognitive differences between males and females, "differences are not deficiencies." She continues, "Even when differences are found, we cannot conclude that they are immutable because the continuous interplay of biological and environmental influences can change the size and direction of the effects some time in the future."

The differences that are supported by the evidence cause concern, she believes, because they are sometimes used to support prejudicial beliefs and discriminatory actions against girls and women. She suggests that anyone reading about gender differences consider whether the size of the differences are large enough to be meaningful, recognize that biological and environmental variables interact and influence one other, and remember that the conclusions that we accept today could change in the future.

Cited Research
Archer, J. (2004). Sex differences in aggression in real-world settings: A meta-analytic review. Review of General Psychology, 8, 291-322.

Barnett, R. & Rivers, C. (2004). Same difference: How gender myths are hurting our relationships, our children, and our jobs. New York: Basic Books.

Eaton, W. O., & Enns, L. R. (1986). Sex differences in human motor activity level. Psychological Bulletin, 100, 19-28.

Feingold, A. (1994). Gender differences in personality: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 116, 429-456.

Halpern, D. F. (2000). Sex Differences in Cognitive Abilities (3rd Edition). Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum, Associates, Inc. Publishers.

Halpern, D. F. (2004). A cognitive-process taxonomy for sex differences in cognitive abilities. Current Directions in Psychological Science, 13 (4), 135-139.

Hyde, J. S., Fennema, E., & Lamon, S. (1990). Gender differences in mathematics performance: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 107, 139-155.

Hyde, J. S. (2005). The Gender Similarities Hypothesis. American Psychologist, Vol. 60, No. 6.

Leaper, C. & Smith, T. E. (2004). A meta-analytic review of gender variations in children's language use: Talkativeness, affiliative speech, and assertive speech. Developmental Psychology, 40, 993-1027.

Oliver, M. B. & Hyde, J. S. (1993). Gender differences in sexuality: A meta-analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 114, 29-51.

Spencer, S. J., Steele, C. M. & Quinn, D. M. (1999). Stereotype threat and women's math performance. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 35, 4-28.

Voyer, D., Voyer, S., & Bryden, M. P., (1995). Magnitude of sex differences in spatial abilities: A meta-analysis and consideration of critical variables. Psychological Bulletin, 117, 250-270.

:russ:

The person who conducted this study purposely narrowed the criteria. (prolly has nothing to do with her being female herself :mjlol:) Read the section directly above the one you bolded.

And then the underlined :laff: Girls and guys are equal to each other in math till the difficulty spikes in high school, then it's gender roles fault the women under preform compared to the males. :ard:What a load of shyt

Yall nikkas really gotta learn to read these studies before yall post em up.
 

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:russ:

The person who conducted this study purposely narrowed the criteria. (prolly has nothing to do with her being female herself :mjlol:) Read the section directly above the one you bolded.

And then the underlined :laff: Girls and guys are equal to each other in math till the difficulty spikes in high school, then it's gender roles fault the women under preform compared to the males. :ard:What a load of shyt

Yall nikkas really gotta learn to read these studies before yall post em up.
point is, if the differences were so inherent as misogynists make it seem, they would have been CLEARLY obvious in the case study with or without a narrow or broad criteria. And where's the proof women under perform to males in highschool? And why is it farfetched to think gender roles can't effect school performance?
 

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point is, if the differences were so inherent as misogynists make it seem, they would have been CLEARLY obvious in the case study with or without a narrow or broad criteria. And where's the proof women under perform to males in highschool?

In the article YOU posted. For math at least.

Hyde has observed that children also suffer the consequences of exaggerated claims of gender difference -- for example, the widespread belief that boys are better than girls in math. However, according to her meta-analysis, boys and girls perform equally well in math until high school,

TBH I believe all things have varying capacities. Men just have a larger base of them due to having to "take on the world" for a longer duration of history. Women have their own capabilities and specializations, and just because they can't do certain thing as well as dudes doesn't mean they can't do it.

I just wanted to :camby: that bs study you posted
 

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The whole experience on TLR has reminded me that I shouldn't have given up my vices.

Y'all argue about this everyday. Every fukking day. In each and every thread people offer solutions that get ignored because everyone wants to be right.

I've been hearing men ain't shyt since I was a little girl.
I've been hearing women ain't shyt since I was a little girl.
So when the fukk are we going to rise above that? None of us are perfect, we'll never be and you have to work with what you got and fund someone who appreciates that.

But if you want to say someone ain't shyt simply by virtue of being born with a certain set of genitals, then so be it.:yeshrug:
What are your vices? Do you love to smoke weed?:leostare: Love to shoot dices?:lupe:
 

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In the article YOU posted. For math at least.



TBH I believe all things have varying capacities. Men just have a larger base of them due to having to "take on the world" for a longer duration of history. Women have their own capabilities and specializations, and just because they can't do certain thing as well as dudes doesn't mean they can't do it.

I just wanted to :camby: that bs study you posted
But the article says, men having the small advantage of performance in math has little if nothing to to with biology. Most misogynists cite biology as the root of psychological inferiority of women. "It's cuz they brain smaller, and it's they brain chemicals" and dumb shyt like that when research shows the differences are very small.
 
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