What ‘Victory’ Looks Like: A Journey Through Shattered Syria

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What ‘Victory’ Looks Like: A Journey Through Shattered Syria
On an eight-day visit, New York Times journalists given rare access to Syria found ruin, grief and generosity. What was missing after eight years of civil war? Young men and a middle class.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/world/middleeast/syria-recovery-aleppo-douma.html


Assad bots must be proud

 

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What ‘Victory’ Looks Like: A Journey Through Shattered Syria
On an eight-day visit, New York Times journalists given rare access to Syria found ruin, grief and generosity. What was missing after eight years of civil war? Young men and a middle class.


What ‘Victory’ Looks Like: A Journey Through Shattered Syria


Assad bots must be proud

I've been thinking seeing these pictures and reading this piece.

If Hafez Assad was in power in 2011, I think the crackdown would have been even more brutal... 1982 levels or more. He'd have probably attacked Daraa and the rebels down over the border in Jordan where thousands of trained militants were hosted and then sealed off the Turkish border where the other rebel groups were based.

Basically, the Algeria playbook.

@ZoeGod what do you think?

 

[BoBurnz]

I've been thinking seeing these pictures and reading this piece.

If Hafez Assad was in power in 2011, I think the crackdown would have been even more brutal... 1982 levels or more. He'd have probably attacked Daraa and the rebels down over the border in Jordan where thousands of trained militants were hosted and then sealed off the Turkish border where the other rebel groups were based.

Basically, the Algeria playbook.

@ZoeGod what do you think?

Hafez would not have had the mass defections that formed the FSA for the first few years as well. It would have been a vastly different conflict, far more violent and less isometric. He'd have definitely crushed Homs and Hama far quicker.

 

[ZoeGod]

I've been thinking seeing these pictures and reading this piece.

If Hafez Assad was in power in 2011, I think the crackdown would have been even more brutal... 1982 levels or more. He'd have probably attacked Daraa and the rebels down over the border in Jordan where thousands of trained militants were hosted and then sealed off the Turkish border where the other rebel groups were based.

Basically, the Algeria playbook.

@ZoeGod what do you think?

If it was Hafez he would have send the Republican guard into Homs and Daara. Assad in the beginning did some concessions like freeing prisoners which was advise from Iran but the old school hardcore Baathist in his cabinet were like hell nah and there was word that his brother would do a coup against him. So he went to violence. If it was Hafez it would have been crushed from the beginning and there would have followed a low level insurgency sponsored by the Gulf. But the war would have been over by 2013.