What, wait...how come we aren't given dual citizenship with Liberia?

[Lord-Yosh]

Americo Liberians themselves are leaving Liberia. There's nothing in liberia for me honestly. nikkas tried building a nation with them nikkas and it didn't end well.

Facts lmaooo i moved to Staten island in 08 and was shocked at the size of the Liberian pop alone

 

[FlimFlam]

You have to play chess...

The country needs money to build, black americans have access to money.

We dont have access to infrastructure building levels of money..if we did we wouldn't even have to go there or anywhere for that matter. they/the world would come to us with active courtship to come to terms and make shyt happen

 

[Deuterion]

So how many people do you think Liberia would take in under such a deal? Millions? that's not happening. Stop being idealistic. That changes their entire make-up.

It's not a simple as that by any means. There are resource rich territories, mining areas, farming areas. Redistributing land to millions of foreigners would not go over smoothly with locals no matter how much money you bring.. I dunno if brehs really understand how much people die over land in Africa. AA's can move to various African nations but moving a whole population to specifically one country is least likely to happen. That's a guaranteed war.

Why does it have to be extremes? Why not open up a merit based citizenship program for African Americans or extended Visa program? The argument doesn’t have to jump from “why not grant AA’s citizenship” to “oh millions will come”...there’s a middle ground there and pretending as if there isn’t one is counter productive.

We dont have access to infrastructure building levels of money..if we did we wouldn't even have to go there or anywhere for that matter. they/the world would come to us with active courtship to come to terms and make shyt happen

We actually do have access to that level of capital which is why the US is so hell bent on keeping diasporan Africans fighting with continental Africans. African Americans are the most politically radical population in the USA and the government knows that once we mend that bridge with Africa shyt will change.

 

[Dzali OG]

Are you thinking of actually moving to Liberia or is this just another pandering dap fishing thread?

I'm thinking of options my tribe have in order to progress. Which can lead to my entire race rising from beneath the worlds feet.

I'm grown as hell and don't care about daps.

 

[Dzali OG]

We dont have access to infrastructure building levels of money..if we did we wouldn't even have to go there or anywhere for that matter. they/the world would come to us with active courtship to come to terms and make shyt happen

Finally, real talk...

Yeah, how much money we have access to is a concern. Though if we get control of an industry as we should, that could better our access to capital.

 

[FlimFlam]

Why does it have to be extremes? Why not open up a merit based citizenship program for African Americans or extended Visa program? The argument doesn’t have to jump from “why not grant AA’s citizenship” to “oh millions will come”...there’s a middle ground there and pretending as if there isn’t one is counter productive.



We actually do have access to that level of capital which is why the US is so hell bent on keeping diasporan Africans fighting with continental Africans. African Americans are the most politically radical population in the USA and the government knows that once we mend that bridge with Africa shyt will change.

Access to that kind of capital when where and how? EMPLOYED by people who have connections to that kinda capital? Sure....But income aint capital. And we aren't in a position to dispatch the capital were employed by it aint at our helm....we wouldn't have our southern kin living on literal official 3rd world conditions in the richest nation if that were the case

And , as i said, if we had it like that wed be getting courted for all kinds of shyt...you don't have to SELL money and opportunity...people and institutional bodies flock to it

I agree with the potential of that kind of connection , but aint shyt free...alliances are business ...that "we black" shyt only goes so far...doesn't really go far at all. Look at africa....something has to bind it because people have severe needs that needs to be met...us included

 

[FlimFlam]

Finally, real talk...

Yeah, how much money we have access to is a concern. Though if we get control of an industry as we should, that could better our access to capital.

Easier said than done...industry aint for sale on the open free market....at this point industry is pretty much gangstaed away from people/nations...again, look at africa and the world at large for that manner

 

[GoAggieGo.]

So we're in agreement there's nothing much for them to offer us. On to the next topic. I know I don't want nothing over there from them. They can keep it. I imagine it's more of them trying to get into western nations than the converse.

Yup

I agree with all of this.

Africa can’t do a thing for me, and they probably feel the same about me. They don’t have a thing for us, and won’t be coming up off of anything. They keep telling us that, as you got posters from Africa on here saying that. It’s time to move on.

 

[Dzali OG]

Why does it have to be extremes? Why not open up a merit based citizenship program for African Americans or extended Visa program? The argument doesn’t have to jump from “why not grant AA’s citizenship” to “oh millions will come”...there’s a middle ground there and pretending as if there isn’t one is counter productive.



We actually do have access to that level of capital which is why the US is so hell bent on keeping diasporan Africans fighting with continental Africans. African Americans are the most politically radical population in the USA and the government knows that once we mend that bridge with Africa shyt will change.

Finally! Someone else who isn't either an idiot, or some type of (and I don't even use this word) agent. It seems like some these people are the often whispered about "agents".

I've made countless threads trying to bounce ideas and......shyt!

Your first response, my breh immediately went to " We can't handle 40 million extra people". As if all 40 million blacks here would jump on a boat at the same time. Hell, most of our 40 million would be too ignorant to participate. We would be lucky if 1 milli would contribute in any quantifiable manner.

And your second paragraph, I feel like I'm dealing with idiots. In a war there's things your opponent wants you to do, and things they don't want you to do. A good fighter interprets what his opponent doesn't want, and does the hell outta that!

An idiot can see black americans teaming up with continental afrikans is game over. And if a person really wanted white supremacy foot out their ass, they'd be as desperate as me to make shyt work.

Now I'm going to call a shot. If this thread continues, some person will reply similar to this:

Poster ______: Ok nikka we get dual citizenship. Now what or

 

[Dzali OG]

And , as i said, if we had it like that wed be getting courted for all kinds of shyt...you don't have to SELL money and opportunity...people and institutional bodies flock to it

Actually we are courted, or rather exploited for it. It's our overall position and problem.

In america we black people are the consumers everyone makes bank from. We're smokers living in a bigass traphouse, and america rents it out to everyone to come sell their rocks to us!

 

[Dzali OG]

Easier said than done...industry aint for sale on the open free market....at this point industry is pretty much gangstaed away from people/nations...again, look at africa and the world at large for that manner

Yeah but there's one industry there's no reason we don't have total or partial ownership of and with technology, we actually have a chance too.

 

[Dzali OG]

I agree with all of this.

Africa can’t do a thing for me, and they probably feel the same about me. They don’t have a thing for us, and won’t be coming up off of anything. They keep telling us that, as you got posters from Africa on here saying that. It’s time to move on.

If afrika can't do a thing for you, you resign to the fact that you're destined to be the cacs bytch forever?

Cause without a homebase in afrika, black americans have very, very, slim chance of rising. You can't do jack shyt without a homebase and nowhere over here can be your homebase.

Blacks are very limited on how they can organize and operate over here on U.S. soil. In truth, with only minor difficulty, they can pass any law they want to lock any black person they want up. To lock EVERY black person they want up. If it's that serious this THREAD could get me disappeared!

THERE IS NO REAL COMING UP FOR BLACKS ON AMERICAN SOIL!

So I assume people with your mentality are not concerned with coming up? Thus never being a threat? Am I correct?

 

[FlimFlam]

Actually we are courted, or rather exploited for it. It's our overall position and problem.

In america we black people are the consumers everyone makes bank from. We're smokers living in a bigass traphouse, and america rents it out to everyone to come sell their rocks to us!

Courtship (in the sense im speaking of at least) and exploitation are the pathways to two different kinds of relationships though

Utilizing our relatively scant (on an american scale) spending power by selling us cheap shyt at a premium is nothing to celebrate ...that's 3rd world shyt it happens around the world over, its not just us

I was speaking on courtship on a scale of some body (a body, not an individual ) utilizing our supposed or prospective capital with propositions of mutual investment for growth and stability of some sort. shyt like caricom...the african union idea...the eu...those are grand as hell, but it can and does happen with fewer bodies on smaller scales. What alot of the world doesnt have in cash paper money they have in resources with can be leveraged...were working with hollow money ONLY...even our black rich people

We arent approached with these kind of propositions...were so disjointed (african Americans) what body OF OUR OWN (not no democrats naacp etc) could even be approached?

Hell gadadfi tried to give farrakhan a billion dollars back in 95 (not talking about the contruction of the temple in Chicago this was something else) and the us govt shut that shyt down. In the papers they were even trying to play gaddafi like he didnt have the money to do that

 

[FlimFlam]

Yeah but there's one industry there's no reason we don't have total or partial ownership of and with technology, we actually have a chance too.

Theres one industry what exactly?

 

[Dzali OG]

Hell gadadfi tried to give farrakhan a billion dollars back in 95 (not talking about the contruction of the temple in Chicago this was something else) and the us govt shut that shyt down. In the papers they were even trying to play gaddafi like he didnt have the money to do that

I think when I first heard of this, is when I knew what the answer is!