What was worse J.Cole apologizing or Drake having ghost writers.

[maxamusa]

Honestly at this point Kendrik is the only 1 with a legit claim to the "big 3" of his generation.

Drake is void because of ghostwriting.

Cole is void because he removed himself from the competition.


It really is just him.


It sounds ignorant but K-Dot actually has organic roots. He's from a City that is known to represent and has been there from the beginning.


Sorry not sorry but its no surprise a guy from Toronto and the Carolinas can't go toe to toe.

 

[LuuqMaan]

J Cole still has work to do to embarrass himself as bad as his idol did

Bro when I tell you first time watching this years ago, I had to pause.

Laughed so hard, it took me out

/

Let’s not forget the blackberry Drake either

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

1) Most people don't really put Kanye in the real MC category.
2) Kanye having writers was never really a secret.

Fair game but trust me when I say everyone has literally used a writer knowingly or unknowingly. I’m speaking as someone whose been invited to different music camps whether they’ll come out admit it is a different story

 

[Shadow King]

Fair game but trust me when I say everyone has literally used a writer knowingly or unknowingly. I’m speaking as someone whose been invited to different music camps whether they’ll come out admit it is a different story

Nah...

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Cole shyt. Just weak. Especially with the way he been talking the last few years. I dont want to hear anymore "no other mc wants it with me" type bars if you running like this. It would be different if him and Dot had a battle and J Cole just lost. This nikka dropped a diss track, talking about a "warning shot", then folded, apologized, and talking about removing it from streaming. shyt just embarrassing. Had Cole fans in the thread talking about he bout to have a ether and shyt for his Fall Off album lol.

Drake having writers really not that big of a deal. I also think drake haters overblow the shyt because they dont like Drake. Not like every single line he spit was written by someone else. He has written for other ppl as well.

Todays hip hop fans yall

 

[CrimsonTider]

Not that I care about either of these cause it's more egregious shyt in the name of the "culture" fans let slide but ghostwriting is the worse. To do that then claim you're the best MC don't sit right with me but I guess I'm different. Same folks that shrug at it didn't give a shyt about William Roberts being a CO and now a caricature on social media.

Stfu

 

[UnQuantized]

Cole easily. Drake has made some good music but I never looked at him as a spitterCole's whole persona from day one was about being a pure MC back to that real shyt, he aggressively carved a spot himself in his era then folded as soon as a generational peer wanted to test that penIf you not that just be yourself from the jump.

The competitive element in hip hop is essential, steel sharpens steel. The artform would not have travelled out of the bronx if there was no drive to better than the dude down the block on the mic or on the turntables. People may think he is being mature but realistically there is almost zero chance that going back and forth with Kendrick ends in any kind of violence, Cole is just not built for any kind of real tension. Cole has songs I like but this is pathetic.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Can’t take either of them seriously but Drake could be Kirko Bangz status without people feeding him hits and he can’t really sing so he would Jack Harlow without the full white stimulus package.

Cole bowing down still disgusting though.

If it was this simple then why isn’t every rapper as big as drake

2pac had a ghostwriter on his debut

Nas used the same writer as drake

 

[The BasedFather]

How is Cole squashing beef like a man make him a bytch?

Dudes just never liked him and jumped at the first chance to dogpile

 

[Drake's Tan]

His arm being in a sling makes it worse visually

That and him saying "I'm not a battle rapper, I'm technical!" After he pulled out the notebook.

Considering that he once said:

I'll battle you on the net, I'll battle you in the flesh
I'll battle you over the phone, you can Call Me Collect
I'll battle you for the respect, I'll battle you over a blank check
I'll battle you with a gun to my neck
I'll battle you standin' over the toilet with my dikk out
I'll battle you jugglin' a hand grenade with the pin out

 

[Ghostface Trillah]

If it was this simple then why isn’t every rapper as big as drake

Nas used the same writer as drake

Because a biracial half black half jew who raps and sings even though he can’t really do either who knows how to leech and wave hop when necessary don’t grow on trees and believe it or not most rappers don’t have a universal sized machine with them in a 360 deal.

 

[Justise M]

Drake ghostwriters came out a long time it and it hasn't affected his popularity. Don't think average fan actually cares as long as the music is good to them.

 

[JoelB]

I saw the Canadian child actor asking him mom for tuna sandwiches like a Full House cast member, initially not knowing how to say nikka, changing his accent every 6 months, struggling to freestyle on Flex with his Blackberry etc. Having ghostwriters is on brand for him

Cole on the other hand was supposed to be raps golden child in the era of mumble rappers. Mr. "Platinum with no features'. Rhyming and making his own beats, getting signed by Jay-z etc. Him fumbling this opportunity was more disappointing

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Todays hip hop fans yall

What's wrong with what I said? Does the ghostwriting shyt disqualify him from being a rapper? Nope. Can he ever claim to be a top lyricist or mc? Nope. Am I gonna stop listening to drake because he has ghostwriters? Nope. If you that big of a "hip hop fan" to let that make you stop listening to drake, good on you I guess. Grats on being a "real fan".

 

[Ziggiy]

At the very least J Coldfeet WROTE those verses so for better or for worse there his words to take back.

Drake doesn’t even write his own shyt so I have no idea how he could ever right his wrongs