What will the republicans replace Obamacare with?

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:ehh: Who knows..but its gonna have to be done...Obamacare was unsustainable in the long term..either the State goes all in and nationalizes with single payer or they get out and let prices fall and just pay the premiums for the indigent...this being half in half out is a vain attempt to protect the health insurers from the inevitable.
I doubt they will repeal it right away without a serious alternative...thats even if he has the time to begin this..Immigration reform itself will be a long project
What? You have no idea what you just typed.
 

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Donald Trump, in Exclusive Interview, Tells WSJ He Is Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health Law

Cry elsewhere

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He'd be right to keep preexisting conditions and kids on parents plan til 26. He needs to go after these scumbag hospitals and pharma companies price gouging with Bernie.

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My son was born 11 weeks early and spent 2 months in the hospital. My bill was over a million.

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You're wild stupid if you think the bill you were forced to pay for a 2month premature baby falls on Obamacare.

Edit: scratch that. Your son was damn near 3 months premature and you're blaming Obamacare? Hoooooooooly shyt you're fukkn stupid.
 

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The BIGGEST problem with Obamacare is they penalized you for not having insurance. They basically forced you to get it even if you didn't need it or wanted it.

If they not gonna have a single payer option you should've be forced to get something you don't want.

The problem with the healthcare system is COST.


At this point its on the republicans. If premiums rise higher than when under Obamacare or people can't afford regular insurance, they will look bad and it will show a clear contrast between parties.

Hopefully Republicans will be pressured into a more affordable approach post Obamacare so they won't look like idiots.
 

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What :what:

The BIGGEST problem with Obamacare is they penalized you for not having insurance. They basically forced you to get it even if you didn't need it or wanted it.

If they not gonna have a single payer option you should've be forced to get something you don't want.

The problem with the healthcare system is COST.


At this point its on the republicans. If premiums rise higher than when under Obamacare or people can't afford regular insurance, they will look bad and it will show a clear contrast between parties.

Hopefully Republicans will be pressured into a more affordable approach post Obamacare so they won't look like idiots.

The biggest problem w./ it is it relies on greedy health insurers
 

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Its not going anywhere.

The problem with Obama care is that it doesn't regulate the Health insurance companies when it comes to pricing.

They will amend it to try and fight rising premium sense that was negatively campaigned about.
 

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You're wild stupid if you think the bill you were forced to pay for a 2month premature baby falls on Obamacare.

Edit: scratch that. Your son was damn near 3 months premature and you're blaming Obamacare? Hoooooooooly shyt you're fukkn stupid.

You connected Obamacare to what I said, not me. I'm fully aware hospital services and drug prices were high before it.
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the republicans plan to replace obamacare is here


A Better Way

repeal obamacare and replace with private health insurance and health savings accounts :skip:
Health savings accounts only work for the wealthy for the most part. the poor and middle class need that money so they don't save it.
 

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The BIGGEST problem with Obamacare is they penalized you for not having insurance. They basically forced you to get it even if you didn't need it or wanted it.

If they not gonna have a single payer option you should've be forced to get something you don't want.

The problem with the healthcare system is COST.


At this point its on the republicans. If premiums rise higher than when under Obamacare or people can't afford regular insurance, they will look bad and it will show a clear contrast between parties.

Hopefully Republicans will be pressured into a more affordable approach post Obamacare so they won't look like idiots.
this is crucial because its the only way insurance companies could be convinced to take on people with pre existing conditions
 

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The BIGGEST problem with Obamacare is they penalized you for not having insurance. They basically forced you to get it even if you didn't need it or wanted it.

If they not gonna have a single payer option you should've be forced to get something you don't want.

The whole point of the individual mandate is to serve as a workaround to national health insurance though. Do remember that the insurance mandate is a Heritage Foundation principle. It was introduced because Nixon wanted to get ahead of the Democrats and Ted Kennedy on the health insurance issue.


The problem with the healthcare system is COST.

At this point its on the republicans. If premiums rise higher than when under Obamacare or people can't afford regular insurance, they will look bad and it will show a clear contrast between parties.

It's been on the Republicans for a 100 years and it took Nixon to build the prototype - which was subsequently rejected by the rest of the Republican party during Watergate. Not exactly what sure what additional evidence you need to draw a clear contrast.

Premiums always rise. I don't understand this idea that there has been a year in history in which healthcare costs did not increase. What you and everyone needs to focus on is how much higher your premiums would be without the Affordable Care Act.

Also it's very easy to control cost, but the cost control mechanisms run contradictory to Republican free market principles. No idea how people who love the free market can then get upset when hospitals overcharge them.

Hopefully Republicans will be pressured into a more affordable approach post Obamacare so they won't look like idiots.
:heh: there is only one approach more affordable than Obama/Hillarycare
 

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Its not going anywhere.

The problem with Obama care is that it doesn't regulate the Health insurance companies when it comes to pricing.

They will amend it to try and fight rising premium sense that was negatively campaigned about.
:hubie:free market principles sir

You know what would regulate pricing :sas2:
 

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The whole point of the individual mandate is to serve as a workaround to national health insurance though. Do remember that the insurance mandate is a Heritage Foundation principle. It was introduced because Nixon wanted to get ahead of the Democrats and Ted Kennedy on the health insurance issue.




It's been on the Republicans for a 100 years and it took Nixon to build the prototype - which was subsequently rejected by the rest of the Republican party during Watergate. Not exactly what sure what additional evidence you need to draw a clear contrast.

Premiums always rise. I don't understand this idea that there has been a year in history in which healthcare costs did not increase. What you and everyone needs to focus on is how much higher your premiums would be without the Affordable Care Act.

Also it's very easy to control cost, but the cost control mechanisms run contradictory to Republican free market principles. No idea how people who love the free market can then get upset when hospitals overcharge them.


:heh: there is only one approach more affordable than Obama/Hillarycare

Obamacare has gone up every year and is going up 25% this year.

The penalties for not paying has gone up every year as well.

The problem with healthcare in this country is people that go to med school and post grad expect to might high six figures because that's what it costs to get the education. Everything is profit driven. Something as simple as a prescription drug which costs little to make can rise in price at a profit of 1000%.

Healthcare and capitalism don't mix.
 

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Obamacare has gone up every year and is going up 25% this year.

Again, what year in history has healthcare NOT risen. This article is from 2002.

After the failure of President Bill Clinton's effort to create universal health insurance in 1994, many experts thought that the private sector -- health maintenance organizations and other forms of managed care -- would deliver cost-efficient, high-quality medical care. But managed care's success in controlling costs proved short-lived, in part because patients and doctors bristled against its hard bargaining and restrictions on care.

Now, many experts agree with Drew Altman, president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a health research group, who said: ''No one has a big new answer on what to do about health care costs. And it's all made worse because health costs are rising in bad economic times.''

The strains in the system are increasingly apparent.

Spending on health care rose 6.9 percent in 2000, the largest one-year percentage increase since 1993, federal researchers reported this year. Spending on prescription drugs and hospital care grew particularly fast, largely because of advances in technology and ''the retreat from tightly managed care,'' said Paul B. Ginsburg, president of the Center for Studying Health System Change, a research organization.

Health insurance premiums rose an average of 11 percent last year and are expected to rise an additional 13 percent this year after several years of very modest growth. Premiums for many small businesses will rise even higher, many experts say. The California Public Employees' Retirement System, or Calpers, reported that its premiums would rise an average of 25 percent next year.

Decade After Health Care Crisis, Soaring Costs Bring New Strains
 
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