What would have happened if United Flight 93 reached its initial target on 9/11?

[karim]

I was just giving my best guess. They're apparently always up there but they made themselves known and seen on that day. Ask them if you want to know the answers. Maybe they'll tell you how they could've been hypothetically effective if a plane came roaring down from the sky.

I think that by the time they could shoot down the plane with anything from the ground, it would already be too late. You can't let it crash in the middle of Washington DC. If the plane hadn't crashed, they would have shot it down in advance in the middle of nowhere (some claim that's actually what happened) either by missiles or fighter jets.

 

[DropTopDoc]

There's not though. You can stand along the river and see top of the White House. Look at a map. The plane that hit the Pentagon could have hit anything in that area he wanted. I also guarantee there were air traffic controllers at DCA who watched the plane come in on radar and then picked up binoculars and watched it circle and hit the Pentagon. They couldn't do anything.

I’m not doubting it, and trust me I’m not a card carrying tinfoil hat wearer but two of the most major things in DC likely aren’t going to be struck, but i find it weird our ground zero for all things that are military and covert gets hit

 

[Mike Nasty]

I’m not doubting it, and trust me I’m not a card carrying tinfoil hat wearer but two of the most major things in DC likely aren’t going to be struck, but i find it weird our ground zero for all things that are military and covert gets hit

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Someone has already flown a plane into the White House lawn.
Frank Eugene Corder - Wikipedia

 

[Skooby]

let's roll

It never would have reached since it was authorized to be shot down if it had gotten too close.


‘We May Have to Shoot Down This Aircraft’

I thought it did get shot down

the same thing that happened to it that day. shot down.

that "concerned citizens overpowered the hijackers" is some pat tillman shyt they just fed yall.

I think that by the time they could shoot down the plane with anything from the ground, it would already be too late. You can't let it crash in the middle of Washington DC. If the plane hadn't crashed, they would have shot it down in advance in the middle of nowhere (some claim that's actually what happened) either by missiles or fighter jets.

Yeah, I personally think it was shot down.

Bush had already given the order to shoot down eating hijack planes. And dikk Chaney specifically gave the order to shoot down United 93 before they supposedly knew it had already crashed.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

random: but they say the passengers took down the hijackers because they learned about the other attacks (their plane took off late so news had spread) but how did they learn about it back then? did cell phones used to get reception on flights back then? that's the only thing i can think of - someone got a call. the pilots/staff might have gotten the news but they certainly wouldn't/couldn't tell passengers. there was no seat back satellite tv so no news, no internet on flights...i always wondered this

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Do ya'll realize how close the Pentagon, Capitol, and White House are to DCA's traffic pattern.
Every plane that takes off to the North on Runway 1, has to make an immediate left turn to avoid flying over the White House.

@ 1:25 You can see the Monument, The White House is just above the circle field to the left of the monument, and the Capitol is at the other end of the mall.



@ 1:15 there's the Pentagon

I knew DC was built on a swamp but for some reason I didn't know yall had this much water


Almost looks like New Orleans

 

[NotaPAWG]

random: but they say the passengers took down the hijackers because they learned about the other attacks (their plane took off late so news had spread) but how did they learn about it back then? did cell phones used to get reception on flights back then? that's the only thing i can think of - someone got a call. the pilots/staff might have gotten the news but they certainly wouldn't/couldn't tell passengers. there was no seat back satellite tv so no news, no internet on flights...i always wondered this

yes...

there’s numerous phone audio from passengers

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

random: but they say the passengers took down the hijackers because they learned about the other attacks (their plane took off late so news had spread) but how did they learn about it back then? did cell phones used to get reception on flights back then? that's the only thing i can think of - someone got a call. the pilots/staff might have gotten the news but they certainly wouldn't/couldn't tell passengers. there was no seat back satellite tv so no news, no internet on flights...i always wondered this

Think United 93 had Airfones. It allowed passengers to make calls in-flight.

 

[Mike Nasty]

random: but they say the passengers took down the hijackers because they learned about the other attacks (their plane took off late so news had spread) but how did they learn about it back then? did cell phones used to get reception on flights back then? that's the only thing i can think of - someone got a call. the pilots/staff might have gotten the news but they certainly wouldn't/couldn't tell passengers. there was no seat back satellite tv so no news, no internet on flights...i always wondered this

Anonymous
Answered June 8, 2016


There are several things to remember.

The first is that GTE Airfone systems were common then. Of the 37 phone calls placed from flight 93, 35 were placed on the Airfone system. This was traceable not only to the particular aircraft, but to a specific phone in a specific row on that aircraft.

In 2001, a dominant (but declining) cell phone system was analog AMPS system at 850 MHz with up to 3 watts transmission power on the mobile side. One ‘feature’ of the AMPS system was far greater range than today’s digital systems. The range on the ground was up to 40 kilometers. In an aircraft, this range was enhanced.

Digital cell systems can detect if your cell phone seems to be in an aircraft and will restrict your use of the cell phone in order to avoid cascading interference with cell phones on the ground. In 2001, this block did not exist for the AMPS system.

For those reasons, the Airfone system and the AMPS system, the cell phone calls were possible from Flight 93 but would not be possible today.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

9/11 was just another day. America does more damage abroad with not a cough or sneeze.

America killed Ghadafi and many other African leaders and destroyed or destabilized whole countries with not a pause. Those people don't have a date of commemoration

you want America to commemorate the deaths of America's enemies?

Yall some dumb niccas

 

[LordLyons]

 

[Michael's Black Son]

It would have never made it, you have a certain airspace you can’t enter and then they would have been shot down, i wish this shyt never happened, now a nikka gotta jump through 50 hoops just to get on a plane

the entire airport experience was stressful before this shyt and it’s on another level now. Elon needs to hurry up with the damn hyperloop already

 

[TRUEST]

There's always snipers on the roof. I'm sure a rocket launcher or two could've damaged a plane or they could've been more effective just in case another method of terrorism was used. It's not like it mattered anyway, because fight jets had United 93 in their cross-hairs anyway. It wasn't making it to its intended target.

The idea of a plane being used as a weapon wasn’t something any nations military was prepared for, except maybe the Japanese since they invented that kamakazi (spelling) sh1t.

 

[LordLyons]

The idea of a plane being used as a weapon wasn’t something any nations military was prepared for, except maybe the Japanese since they invented that kamakazi (spelling) sh1t.

Not true at all.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

yes...

there’s numerous phone audio from passengers

that was the seat phones, calling loved ones to say goodbye. but i guess that's how they learned of the fate of the other planes, they had already been jacked, called to say bye, then got told about the planes that crashed into the towers

Not true at all.

it's true in the context of crashing them into civilian targets, especially not in war time