Pure Water
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Bodies to start dropping in huge numbers as the direct result of climate change. Anything else and we're going to keep moving as slowly as we've been moving.
What would it take to get people to take climate change seriously?
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We doing this dishonest shyt again. This is circa republican 2004 shyt.
You can't be against climate change if you don't live a nomadic lifestyle
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No difference between a nomadic lifestyle, and being a part of the most energy consuming society in human history?We doing this dishonest shyt again. This is circa republican 2004 shyt.
You can't be against climate change if you don't live a nomadic lifestyle
Always with the extremes...
First sign of a vapid argument...
afterlife2009
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America’s nearing a record number of weather disasters, and it’s not even hurricane season yet.
New data out Friday from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows that there have been nine extreme weather events — each racking up more than $1 billion in losses — during the first half of 2017. An average year between 1980 and 2016 had just 5.5 major events, after adjusting for inflation.
That means we’ve already racked up more than a year’s worth of weather disasters in 2017 — the second-fastest pace in history.
Weather-wise, pretty much the whole country is a hot mess right now. In 20 states, regions experienced their warmest first half of the year on record; as of now, only Washington and Oregon are on pace for relatively normal years. There’s a smoldering drought burning up North Dakota wheat fields, rainfall in parts of Michigan and the South is 300 percent of normal over the past 30 days, and a 131-year-old heat record could fall in Los Angeles this weekend. Oh yeah, there’s also a 25,000 acre wildfireburning just outside Tucson, Arizona.
And with hurricane season running about seven weeks ahead of schedule, it’s possible the worst weather of 2017 is yet to come.
You do know the largest share of electricity consumption in the US is from industry, right?
But Hillary won the popular vote....
As well as the US military's use?
In fact, the US military is the largest consumer of crude oil in the world.
Private citizens won't make a difference by limiting their own personal consumption.
Same with water conservation, the biggest issue is agriculture in unsustainable places, especially California, and the raising of cattle.
The "change they want" would have to be legislative restrictions on agriculture, the US military, and corporations industrial input.
The vast, vast majority of private American citizens don't have a say in any of that. This is doubly true for Democrats, as Republican administrations have continually pushed us further in. Trump is trying to use coal as a selling point
So the American government is expending the vast majority of it's efforts to secure oil so it can fuel the military to secure oil?You do know the largest share of electricity consumption in the US is from industry, right?
As well as the US military's use?
In fact, the US military is the largest consumer of crude oil in the world.
Private citizens won't make a difference by limiting their own personal consumption.
Same with water conservation, the biggest issue is agriculture in unsustainable places, especially California, and the raising of cattle.
And the industry thats being fueled is for what? Might it be the endless amounts of consumer products we have been convinced we need in order to be happy?
If you really don't think the American people and our addiction to consumerism has nothing to do with any of this, I don't know what to tell you.
You ever been outside of America? It takes half a brain cell to realize the average American lives like a king compared to the vast majority of the rest of the world, and, by and large, we're driven solely by the desire to acquire even more luxury.
But, blaming others for all the world's problems is as American as it gets...so, again, I don't know what to tell you.
And all of those things, at the end of the day, would result in Americans having to make sacrifices. So, whether it be government mandated sacrifices or self-imposed ones, I would argue that the majority of arm-chair environmentalists aren't willing to put their money where the mouths are, so to speak. And, to my original point, if you really cared why would you feel the need to wait for the government to force you to begin sacrificing?The "change they want" would have to be legislative restrictions on agriculture, the US military, and corporations industrial input.
The vast, vast majority of private American citizens don't have a say in any of that. This is doubly true for Democrats, as Republican administrations have continually pushed us further in. Trump is trying to use coal as a selling point
You think corporations and such are wasteful for the hell of it? Or is it possibly connected to the crazy low prices that expect when we walk into the grocery store and by fresh produce grown half a world away?
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I walk the streets like, ''say something, n!gga!''
I know, I know. . . It's not CNN. It's not MSNBC. . . But it's real jouralism. You guys aren't use to that. Have an open mind and listen.
I'm going to leave this here for another 24 because I want you and others to realize how bad you contradict yourself in these 2 posts. Know I already have my reply post saved. You have all the time in the world to add qualifications and defend yourself.There's no contradiction. If you don't see the contradiction in the the majority of people in the most wasteful society in history taking the moral high ground on being wasteful, then so be it.
America is a wasteland: The U.S. produces a shocking amount of garbage
Fossil fuels still dominate U.S. energy consumption despite recent market share decline - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
You're saying Americans have zero personal responsibility to change this....anything less would be a "nomadic lifestyle". So, the vast...vast majority of people on earth that don't pollute nearly as much as the average American are nomads?
Enjoy your countdown.
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The Earth's temp has changed over the millions years of existence....this is nothing new.