What would the world be like without feminism?

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You don't have to be a feminist to be for equal rights for women. Your question doesn't really make any sense.

I'm sure people were "for" equal rights for women prior to the inception of feminism, but being for something didn't do much to net women equal rights and feminism did. Do you believe that women would have the rights and opportunities they have now without feminism just because some people are "for" equal rights?
 

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We wouldn't have rights, we would be property instead of people. According to men that are against feminism, women having rights is what's wrong with America. American women having rights is the reason they don't want an American woman.
This is Bullshyt juice. Im against feminism in its modern form but I think everyone should have rights, lefts too.:sas2:
 

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Divorce rate wouldn't be as bad, more two parent households, less criminals and troubled teens.

Are you suggesting that feminism is causing marriages to split, if so, what about feminism specifically is causing marriages to split?
 

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There would be no such thing as an Incel/ 18+ year old male virgin
Less female obesity
Less prostitution
Less homosexuals
Less emotion in the work place
Less domestic violence
No Beyonce, Rihanna, Adele, Madonna, Aretha, Billie, Witney, Mariah, Celene, Tina Turner, Britney, Kylie, Lady Gaga, Alicia Keys, Katy Perry, Bjork, Taylor Swift, etc.
Road accidents would drop rapidly
No single mothers
Less abortions
No such things as thongs, mini skirts, high heels, push up bras
No strip clubs/porn
Tumblr would be the GOAT website

No thongs ,mini skirts, high heels, porn , strip clubs ? Only thing I disagree with because men love seeing that on women and female performers
 

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IMO, a world without feminism would probably be one in which "masculinity" wasn't in need of a reexamination. And note, I'm not saying that such a reexamination is a bad thing. On the contrary, I think it's necessary.

What has feminism destroyed that would be rectified if there was no feminism?
Destroyed is too strong of a word. Relationships have somewhat been altered because of it, especially after 3rd wave feminism. Some people feel like the sexual liberation of women has allowed men to evade commitment. Opinions vary on if things are better or worse when it comes to committed relationships and dating. I like it. :ehh: This could be its own thread.

We're definitely in a transition period with regard to relationships and I think a lot of the gripes people have about modern dating come down to changes brought on by feminism.

As an example, I always find the threads on who should pay on dates to be pretty illuminating because you can see the tension between the more traditional views on dating where men are in the driver's seat and women are just along for the ride vs. a more modern view where women are expected to take a more active role in it.

This really could be a thread all its own.
 

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I'm sure people were "for" equal rights for women prior to the inception of feminism, but being for something didn't do much to net women equal rights and feminism did. Do you believe that women would have the rights and opportunities they have now without feminism just because some people are "for" equal rights?
My questions make perfect sense, how do you think those right were achieved? If there wasn't a group fighting for them, like anything else that is fought for, how would it have been achieved? And what about every else that was said. I went back and edited for better understanding.
Black women like black men still don't have equal rights despite what it says on paper, so what has feminism actually done for black women? What rights? I actually think that blacks were better off pre-integration because at least everything was out in the open and we knew exactly where we stood. Black feminism is a result of black women being disillusioned putting being a woman before being black. Life would not be any easier for black women if they were black men. What part of that is hard to understand?
 
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