What’s going on with the Celtics this year?

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Kylie holding them back. Those guys aren't in awe of Kylie. They don't look up to him.

Plus he like 6'1ish, I'm not looking down to no dude to lead at 6'8+.They don't think he is the reason they win games cuz they saw what they did without him. He can just get his. Kylie calling for the vet because he saw the amount of respect the guys gave Lebron. Those cats on the squad see him as a peer. I'm not sure where the video is but there was one of Kylie trying to talk to JB on the bench and JB just ignored him like "whatever nikka, you ain't bron nikka :rudy:"

Yeah, I don't think he has the personality needed to leverage his basketball skills into leadership. There's a reason Kyrie quotes get posted on here and other places--it's so people can laugh at his pseudo-intellectualism. Also, he maybe too egoistic to elevate others. Like, imagine the dude that says the Earth is flat and throws basketballs into stands trying to tell you off on some late rotation. You'd be like "puhhlease"
 

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Bench Hayward and kyrie


Rozier Jalen Tatum Morris and horford
 

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Hayward doesn't need to come off the bench because he can't score at will right now...plus Hayward looks to pass the ball at least..

When Jayson Tatum gets the ball, he's gonna shoot it...

And Kyrie already plays like an NBA 2k dribble god...

Al Horford can't shoot right now...

Unless Brad Stevens puts in some motion offense in...they got 2 iso players and a guy that needs the ball in the starting line up right now

And they don't pass the ball or move the ball around like the Warriors and they don't play as fast so it's a lot of standing around and watching somebody dribble...

Tatum can go to the bench and shoot to his hearts content against bench units and finish the 4th with the starters...

I wouldn't have Tatum start...dude is a blackhole...throwing up shots like he's Kobe...so he can go do that with the bench and it wouldn't hurt the rest of the team...
That bench would be a mess as well though. Rozier, Smart, and Tatum?
 

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Hayward needs to come off the bench. Then stagger Tatum or Brown so that one of the two plays the bulk of their time with Hayward and the bench unit with Rozay. We need Baynes to start at 5, we've been getting beasted on the boards regularly, and Theis/Williams are adequate backups. Brown also has been overly deferential to Hayward and his offensive numbers show it. He excels when he's aggressive and can play more with the ball (i.e the Utah game)

I'm still not worried, its pretty obviously a chemistry issue, and everyone has been saying/doing the right things. I think we'll go on a decent winning streak soon, but the lineup def needs a change. :manny:
 

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We have 3 wing players in the starting lineup. No brainer. Go back to a traditional lineup.

Bench Hayward. I don’t care that we paid him. He’s never did anything in a Celtics uniform and he was only a 1x all star with Utah. Bench this guy, he’s playing like shyt... make him a 6th man. :yeshrug:
 

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kyrie saving the leprechauns & they hate him for it it makes no sense

nikkas want tatum to be the #1 but him being taller than kyrie don't make him more skilled than kyrie

skills determine the hierarchy & kyrie is miles up on the celtics foodchain right now

they emphasize team over individual so if they feel kyrie is too for dolo send him off then

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Send Hayward to the bench and get running on offense. Pace is trash with a defense that good. Get more possessions on offense and your defense will have you blowing teams out.
 

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Hayward is playing timid and like shyt..
the 2 games i watched..

and they may have too many players who NEED the ball..

the thing that makes GS work.. is that only KD an Steph NEED the rock..
Klay and Dray really jus get theirs in the flow of the offense..

on this team Tatum, Brown, Kyrie, Hayward.. shyt.. even that Morris twin needs the ball.. :yeshrug:
 

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kyrie saving the leprechauns & they hate him for it it makes no sense

nikkas want tatum to be the #1 but him being taller than kyrie don't make him more skilled than kyrie

skills determine the hierarchy & kyrie is miles up on the celtics foodchain right now

they emphasize team over individual so if they feel kyrie is too for dolo send him off then

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I feel you for the most part , but playing devils advocate here... has Kyrie ever proven to be a legit number 1 option oncontender for a full season in his career?
 

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I feel you for the most part , but playing devils advocate here... has Kyrie ever proven to be a legit number 1 option oncontender for a full season in his career?
well we know he can lead your offense we know what he did for those bron cavs teams

outside of the times he played with bron he's always been on trash teams

you question whether or not he's the #1 offensive option on the celtics¿

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